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Old 16-04-2006, 12:42 PM
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Great images Andrew! I really like 'em! You have great detail just waiting to be 'enhanced/teased out'. One Q. hand-held or is the camera attached to the scope?

Heres a real quick reprocess of your last image I just did. I'll be trying on a few others later.

Well done mate!
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Old 16-04-2006, 12:49 PM
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Beginners Imaging Comp - Comments/Advice/etc

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Post your comments/advice/reprocesses etc about the beginners imaging comp entries here.

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Old 16-04-2006, 01:18 PM
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All handheld. I "mate" the camera lens to the eyepiece with my thumb and forefinger. I don't have any remote shutter button, so I don't think setting it up on a tripod would help me either. I think one key is to use eyepieces with long eye relief (such as the radians) as this also usually gives you a larger eye lens and allows you to 'search' for the planet in the field. Exercise in frustration, but occasionally it comes off.

What software / settings did you use / play with for your reprocess? I don't want to learn everyone's secrets, but want to know enough to start and learn some 'secrets' of my own
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Old 16-04-2006, 01:49 PM
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Was about to PM you Mike about splitting the thread, you saved me the trouble. Thanks.

Andrew, knowing there hand-held makes them even better. Well done. This is how I first started, with the kodak easyshare. I eventually made an adapter & fitted the camera to the OTA.

I use picture Publisher #8 as my image editing software. First I took your image & gave it 2 points of less gamma on all 3 red green & blue channels. Saved. Went back into gamma, 1 point less of the blue channel. Saved. Went into tone balance, up 4 points on highlights. Down 1 on midtones, up 2 on shadows, saved. 5 points of sharpening, 1 point of unsharp mask, saved. Went into hue map option, in there I have 11 colour/hue sliders. Tweaked 5 colour hues. Saved. Saturation shift, up 1 point. Saved. Resized smaller, Saved. Back into sharpening, up 2 points. saved. Down 6 points of despeckle. saved. Into Colour balance, up 5 points of contrast on red channel only. saved. contrast/brightness, up 2 points on all 3 red green blue channels on contrast, down 1 on all 3 channels brightness. Saved. Posted.

This is all just a basic 'tweaking' really. A lot more is involved to get the very best out of an image. Takes hours. I do it that often I don't need to think about it now. I think its taken nearly 3 years to learn this program, rather complicated, lol.
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Old 17-04-2006, 12:52 PM
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so thats the competition hey?
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Old 19-04-2006, 12:31 PM
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Well done JJJ,

COLOUR!!!

well done, i will have a little play in astra image to see if i can get any more detail.


top stuff!
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Old 19-04-2006, 12:48 PM
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JJJ, when at the wavelets there is a rgb align tab, press estimate and the colours should then align better. ie at the moment it looks bluer at the bottom
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Old 19-04-2006, 12:57 PM
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might have a go tonight or tomorrow night... gee its been busy at home
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Old 19-04-2006, 01:42 PM
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Come on Ving, we need more than 2 entrants to make it a valid competition.
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Old 19-04-2006, 01:50 PM
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i want to, but i have to find time jeanette!!!
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:08 AM
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top stuff vingo,

did you use the RGB align in registax at wavelets time, some of them seem red at the top and blue at the bottom.

thanks for having a go!
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:14 AM
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regiwax?
little waves?


i think its something to do with the camera lens dave. those are but single shots. i cant take AVIs so i didnt even bother with registax... would it help?
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:19 AM
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my hat off to ving!!!

single shots - awesome!

yes if you can take avi, you get 100's of single shots and then get to use registax.

reigistax may work on a single frame, but i will have a go in astra image
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:22 AM
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i doubt you will get too much more out of them dave, those are pretty well tweaked.
good luck anyhow


ps, sorry i got the boring side, but at least i got a transit
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:30 AM
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Ok, into astra image, split into red, green and blue channels. Very intersting to see the blue is the cleanest!!!

a 5x1.3 ME deconvolution to clean it up a bit and then recombine.

Moved the red down 1 and the blue up 2. Result the left "combine"

the right "combine" is vings original recombined but colour shifted.

Top stuff ving for a single shot!!
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Old 20-04-2006, 09:49 AM
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you can tell i am a observer. the more i look at it the more things i think i can see in it

quite interesting astra image... thnks for the compliment dave
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Old 20-04-2006, 04:33 PM
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hey bmanners sir, you have bands in that large one!
what sorta webcam did you use?
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Old 20-04-2006, 04:37 PM
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Well done brett, great start.

What eyepiece are you using and what does your eye see before the camera comes into play. Can you make out bands or was the image shifting all over the place. As you saw with the moon, if you have "heat waves" so to speak it means that the seeing is not great. The atmosphere is shifting or your telescope mirror is warmer than the surrounding air.

This is part of the comp to estimate the seeing and to start to get a feel for putting a number to it . So "School is in!!"

The moon is a great start and you have mentioned that it was wobbling. (http://damianpeach.com/pickering.htm) next, try finding a nice bright star and then putting your highest magnification on it. Can you then match it with this link?

If the seeing is bad ie number is low, then you will not see detail on jupiter. If the seeing is great then, you will see lots of fine detail.

Leave your scope out for at least 1/2 an hour to 1 hr before you start imaging etc.
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Old 20-04-2006, 06:22 PM
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excellent andrew!
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Old 20-04-2006, 10:49 PM
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Thanks David

Anyone got advice on wavelet value choices in Registax? I realise it may vary with image, but is there a good starting point? I am probably already at the limit of what I can get out of these single shot pics, but just curious to experiment some more. What other options are available for processing?
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