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Old 04-04-2012, 11:18 PM
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Milky Way wide fields/star trails from Lake Moogerah and the Scenic Rim

Hello again everyone!

I've had an exceptionally busy few months with uni (barely touched the camera/scope at all), but we had mid semester exams last weekend so I had a good reason to celebrate with a bit of photography a short drive west of Brisbane:

Lake Moogerah (click on the links for larger/higher quality versions):

1. Star trails over Lake Moogerah.

Details: ~ 360x 30 sec frames (3 hrs total) taken with a stock Canon 5DmkII and 14 mm f/2.8L II at 30 sec, f/4, ISO 3200 on a tripod. Stacked with StarStaX and finished with Photoshop.

2. Milky Way, SMC, and LMC above Lake Moogerah. I've never seen airglow so thick/bad before!

Details: 1x 14 mm, 30 sec, f/2.8, ISO 3200 on fixed tripod.

3. Milky Way through the canopy.

Details: 1x 14 mm, 30 sec, f/2.8, ISO 3200 on fixed tripod.

Spicers Gap State Forest (along the Scenic Rim):

4. Star trails.

Details: ~ 240x frames taken with a stock Canon 20D, 14 mm, f/2.8, 30 sec, ISO 1600.

5. Milky Way arching over the horizon. The glow on the left (east) is light pollution from Brisbane. The LMC can be seen just behind the lone eucalyptus tree on the right.

Details: 5x 30 sec frames, 14 mm, f/2.8, 30 sec, ISO 3200 on a fixed tripod. Stitched in Photoshop.

6. Scorpius and Sagittarius regions of the Milky Way. The nebulosity in the usual suspects (Eagle, Omega, Trifid, Lagoon, etc) can be seen in the larger version, along with the Rho Ophiuchi region's colours. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to expose any deeper.

Details: Panorama of 6x 180 sec frames, Canon 24 mm f/1.4L II @ f/2.8, ISO 400 mounted on an Astrotrac. Stitching (no stacking) and finishing in Photoshop.

7. Milky Way rising above a lone eucalyptus tree.

Details: 1x 60 sec frame, Canon 17-40 mm f/4L @ 17 mm, f/4, ISO 6400 on a fixed tripod.

8. Omega, Trifid, and Lagoon Nebulae.

Details: Crop from 1x 30 sec, Canon 135 mm f/2L @ f/2.8, ISO 1600 on an Astrotrac.

Thanks for looking!


Cheers,

Dave
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:48 PM
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These are great Dave I love them all. Congratulations on the captures. To bad you couldn't get a bit more sky above the Milky Way in that panorama one.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:33 AM
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Wow Dave, Lake Moogerah is one of my favourite spots..if I had the money, i'd buy one of the permanent caravan sites and go there every weekend. (other than the Leyburn weekends of course)

It's even better now that I've seen these wonderful shots from there..so peaceful....thanks
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:00 AM
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Beautiful collection of images!

Number 4 star trails is spectacular
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:26 AM
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Wow!! Stunning images Dave.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:54 AM
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+1 Terrific series. Loved them all. Beautiful colours and thanks for posting all the capture details. Very instructive.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:27 AM
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They're fantastic! Excellent results Dave, been wondering where you've been.

I love #1 particularly. I bet you wish the powerlines weren't there for 2 and 3. Would've made the shots even better.

Well done!
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:39 AM
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Really good images Dave. The problem with wide fields is always gradients.

I took the liberty of running GradientXterminator over one of your images.

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Hope you do not mind. I am willing to give a full res version the same treatment.

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i agree Mike, no 1 is my new desktop, hope you don't mind Dave
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:44 AM
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Really good images Dave. The problem with wide fields is always gradients.

I took the liberty of running GradientXterminator over one of your images.
What settings do you use for GradientXterminator, Bert?

It seems to work ok on the defaults but I've never really tried the others
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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What settings do you use for GradientXterminator, Bert?

It seems to work ok on the defaults but I've never really tried the others

There is no correct way that covers all images Mike. I usually start with coarse and medium for step one. The really tricky bit is what part you are isolating for the second step and the settings.

Basically trial and error and you end up with a gut feeling for what may work.

I did forget to say if you have trees on any other non astro objects in the image the algorithm in GradientXterminator treats them as an anomalous 'gradient'. These should be eliminated with the selection tool.

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:01 AM
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Beautiful set of images, I really like the green airglow you captured. The pano is sensational.
Great!
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:05 AM
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Here is an animated gif that shows the dramatic improvement.

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:27 AM
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What a gorgeous set of images!
I was going to suggest you download HLV to deal with the green cast you're getting.
But gradient exterminator had done the job nicely too.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:01 AM
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Very nice shots Dave. Hope the examiners are kind to you!

Would love to catch up with you and learn some of your techniques for wide field - need to get some results with my new camera!!!!!!

Hope you get a chance to come out to Leyburn sometime soon.

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Wow Dave, hard to pick a favourite out of that buch, they are all great.

Might be worth some more playing with gradient removal as per Bert, this would really make them shine!

It always amazes me looking at whole sky panoramas in this digital age and how releatively easy they are to do now. Back in my early astrophotography days the only way to appreciate such expanses of sky required multiple frames throughout a night then film developing and finally mozaicing prints together ...that was the only way really, unless you had a multi $1000 fisheye lens and these distorted the scene too much and couldn't be distorted back again in software

Nice work

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Old 06-04-2012, 08:55 AM
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Great photos Dave.

Number 5 is my favourite.

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Old 06-04-2012, 09:12 PM
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Wow, thanks for all the nice comments everyone - it's much appreciated I'm really liking wide fields for the small commitment + instant gratification factor... plus it's a nice way to relax after a busy month.

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These are great Dave I love them all. Congratulations on the captures. To bad you couldn't get a bit more sky above the Milky Way in that panorama one.
I did actually record enough data above the Milky Way - but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make Photoshop do a rectilinear instead of fisheye projection.

If I add the extra frames in (about 50-60% of the full night sky), then it automatically becomes a fisheye projection - like Stellarium when completely zoomed out (see attached pic - or larger version here).

I'd be very interested in any suggestions?!

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They're fantastic! Excellent results Dave, been wondering where you've been.

I love #1 particularly. I bet you wish the powerlines weren't there for 2 and 3. Would've made the shots even better.
Thanks Mike! #1 was the only photo that I'd specifically planned to take - cross referencing Stellarium, Google Maps, BOM forecasts, Skippy Sky and my uni timetable.

Yep, the power lines were unfortunate... the water level was MUCH higher than what the Google Maps overhead photos indicated thanks to all the rain in SE QLD. I thought that I could set up a bit further south for some shots, but photo #1 already had the tripod legs at the water's edge.

By the way, I see that you now own a 5DmkII and are producing some fantastic results - good stuff!

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Really good images Dave. The problem with wide fields is always gradients.

I took the liberty of running GradientXterminator over one of your images.

Hope you do not mind. I am willing to give a full res version the same treatment.
Bert, thank you - that's a spectacular effort! I've just downloaded and tried a trial copy of GradientXTerminator - it does a great job of removing it. It does seem to also remove some areas of faint nebulosity though... I'll try running it on the individual panels first before merging the panorama to see if it helps.

If you did want to have a play around with the full res version, you're very welcome to download it here.

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i agree Mike, no 1 is my new desktop, hope you don't mind Dave
Not at all, Greg! In fact, I'm quite flattered. If you'd like a larger version, feel free to PM me.

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Very nice shots Dave. Hope the examiners are kind to you!

Would love to catch up with you and learn some of your techniques for wide field - need to get some results with my new camera!!!!!!

Hope you get a chance to come out to Leyburn sometime soon.
David, yes it'd be great to be able to get out to Leyburn (finally). Hopefully I'll have some time this coming new moon if I can catch up on my readings and study. I'm very keen to see what you and the D800 can achieve!

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Wow Dave, hard to pick a favourite out of that buch, they are all great.

Might be worth some more playing with gradient removal as per Bert, this would really make them shine!

It always amazes me looking at whole sky panoramas in this digital age and how releatively easy they are to do now. Back in my early astrophotography days the only way to appreciate such expanses of sky required multiple frames throughout a night then film developing and finally mozaicing prints together ...that was the only way really, unless you had a multi $1000 fisheye lens and these distorted the scene too much and couldn't be distorted back again in software
Thanks Mike! Yes, it's quite amazing that we can now stick a modern SLR + wide angle prime on a tripod, point it up at the sky, and instantly get a very usable image... no fuss required. I'd love to see what the new Canon 1D-X + 24 mm f/1.4L II combination is capable of just on a tripod.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:52 AM
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:54 AM
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Here you go Dave.

large image just adjusted with GradientXterminator 17MB


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large image also enhanced with EasyHDR 24MB

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EasyHDR can bring out the dust better without saturating the brighter parts of the image.

There seems to be more blue around Crux due to less extinction by the atmosphere as it was most probably far higher.

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