Go Back   IceInSpace > General Astronomy > Astronomy Books and Media
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 6 votes, 5.00 average.
  #1  
Old 25-03-2011, 04:39 PM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
Review: The Night Sky Observers Guide, Volumes 1-3

Patrick Kavanagh (Paddy) has written a thorough review of [bThe Night Sky Observers Guide, Volumes 1-3[/b].

You can read the review on the IceInSpace Equipment Reviews page, or directly by clicking on the link below:

The Night Sky Observers Guide, Volumes 1-3

Thanks to Paddy for writing the review.

If you'd like to contribute an article or review for IceInSpace, please have a read of Write For IceInSpace and get in touch!

Last edited by iceman; 28-03-2011 at 06:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28-03-2011, 06:47 AM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
Review Uploaded.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 28-03-2011, 07:15 AM
erick's Avatar
erick (Eric)
Starcatcher

erick is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
Posts: 8,547
Well done, Paddy! I support your review 100% I have found this set of guides to be a great step up from the more basic guides I commenced with. I see them being useful for years for me.

There is only one thing missing - a high level index of constellations that covers all three volumes. So I made up my own and [UPDATE - have added it to next post]. It has eight columns and I have mine laminated into a double-sided 21cm x 23cm sheet.

The columns are:-
* Constellation # from 1 to 88, eg. 67
* Abbreviation, eg. PsA
* Name, eg. Pices Austrinus
* Genitive, eg. Pices Austrini
* English Name, eg. The Southern Fish
* Alpha Star name (if there is one), eg. Fomalhaut
* Volume, eg. 1
* Page, eg. 333

and two further entries giving volume and page number for the two Magellanic clouds.

Last edited by erick; 28-03-2011 at 07:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28-03-2011, 07:40 PM
erick's Avatar
erick (Eric)
Starcatcher

erick is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
Posts: 8,547
Here is the index

UPDATE - here is the guide, an excel file, attached in a zip file.
Attached Files
File Type: zip Constellations and index to Guides.zip (10.2 KB, 143 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28-03-2011, 09:16 PM
barx1963's Avatar
barx1963 (Malcolm)
Bright the hawk's flight

barx1963 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Mt Duneed Vic
Posts: 3,982
Great review Paddy. Not that I needed it as I have already splashed the cash on 2 of the volumes. Having watched Paddy use his copies to great effect at a couple of Snake Valley camps, I can only back up what he writes.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Suzy's Avatar
Suzy
Searching for Travolta...

Suzy is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 3,700
What a fantastic review Paddy!!!!
Thank you so much.

I tried to buy this book but couldn't find it for sale. I'm guessing it's not printed anymore
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-04-2011, 08:18 PM
mithrandir's Avatar
mithrandir (Andrew)
Registered User

mithrandir is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Glenhaven
Posts: 4,161
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzy View Post
What a fantastic review Paddy!!!!
Thank you so much.

I tried to buy this book but couldn't find it for sale. I'm guessing it's not printed anymore
Bintel usually have copies. The left six all came from there.
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (books.JPG)
178.9 KB196 views
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-04-2011, 07:38 AM
erick's Avatar
erick (Eric)
Starcatcher

erick is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
Posts: 8,547
I bought mine from Powells:-

http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780943396583-1

But I see it is on sale at many places, and cheaper than Powells, eg, directly from the publisher:-

http://www.willbell.com/handbook/nitesky.htm

If you can get free postage, then with the current exchange rate you may get all three for close to $100 - a bargain!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-04-2011, 09:06 AM
Suzy's Avatar
Suzy
Searching for Travolta...

Suzy is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 3,700
Thanks Eric.

I have just ordered Vol.3 The Southern Skies- from Powells.

I'll slowly build up the other volumes - they wanted postage on each
additional book so it would have worked out a bit expensive.

Oooh, I can't wait to get it, I'm so excited! I just love observing books.
Yikes, the postage cost me nearly as much as the book ($18.99 + Book $37.50= $56.49). But it's still good value- converted, it worked out to $54.50.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-04-2011, 09:11 AM
Liz's Avatar
Liz
Registered User

Liz is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Beautiful SE Tassie
Posts: 4,734
Think I bought mine from the US at quite good prices, but was a bit disappointed in the section on Crux. Lots of info on each constellation, but didnt mention the little carbon star ESB 365 (DY Crucis/Ruby Crucis).
This is quite a bright carbon star/variable and easy to see, so was surprised at this ommission. If the information is there, then its well hidden.
Dont use the set of books at all actually .... but then, I do have a lot of astronomy books, and just favour a few when observing.
These books are maybe suited to very experienced observer searching for mag 14 galaxies etc ..... alas, I havent seen a star/constellation for about 6 months, so do not count myself as such.
Am sure these are a great set of books, but just dont suit me at the moment, maybe down the track, when I spend much more time under the night sky.

Last edited by Liz; 05-04-2011 at 10:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-04-2011, 09:14 AM
Liz's Avatar
Liz
Registered User

Liz is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Beautiful SE Tassie
Posts: 4,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzy View Post
Thanks Eric.

I have just ordered Vol.3 The Southern Skies- from Powells.

I'll slowly build up the other volumes - they wanted postage on each
additional book so it would have worked out a bit expensive.

Oooh, I can't wait to get it, I'm so excited! I just love observing books.
.
Just found my receipt in the back of the book, and bought it at Powells too.
See how you like Suzy. As you know, I also LOVE observing books, but this one isnt a favourite, but you may love it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-04-2011, 12:36 PM
erick's Avatar
erick (Eric)
Starcatcher

erick is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
Posts: 8,547
You will find that, if you like Volume 3, you'll eventually have to buy Volumes 1 and 2 which include many constellations that are readily accessible for us. Vol 3 is really for the far south constellations (well, as far as the North Americans and Europeans are concerned). I use them to construct observing lists. They have photos or sketches of most objects so that you can compare what you are seeing through the eyepiece. But what am I doing, Paddy has already described all this!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-04-2011, 01:42 PM
Suzy's Avatar
Suzy
Searching for Travolta...

Suzy is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 3,700
Yikes!
Thanks so much for the input Liz and Eric.

Eric from what you said, I'm going back to change my order to Volume 2. I hope they will accept the change (I only ordered a few hours ago and they should still be in beddy byes none the wiser) .
Volume 3 didn't have Sagittarius or Scorpio and seems to have a lot more to offer me than Volume 3. I wished I'd seen the constellation listing on Vol.3 before I'd ordered.
Oh gosh, I do hope I'm up to at least the beginning skills for this book, otherwise I'll have to work my way up to it.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-04-2011, 02:27 PM
erick's Avatar
erick (Eric)
Starcatcher

erick is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
Posts: 8,547
Suzy

See my constellation listing in the attached file some posts back so you can see what is in which Volume.

Eccles
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-04-2011, 05:24 PM
Suzy's Avatar
Suzy
Searching for Travolta...

Suzy is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 3,700
Thanks Eric, but I re-visited the link you gave for Willmann Bell Inc book store and the constellations listings for each volume are given further down the page. I just didn't read it well enough.
I figured I'd be better off with Volume 2 as we are now getting into the season for this book.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-04-2011, 06:19 PM
[1ponders]'s Avatar
[1ponders] (Paul)
Retired, damn no pension

[1ponders] is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Obi Obi, Qld
Posts: 18,778
Quote:
Originally Posted by mithrandir View Post
Bintel usually have copies. The left six all came from there.
Gee that looks exactly like part of my bookshelf.

A fantastic set of books, and not just for the visual user. I have found them very useful as a quick reference when researching for objects to image. I also use then as a guide when deciding on camera/scope combinations based on the information presented in the volumes.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 29-04-2011, 02:53 PM
Gem's Avatar
Gem (Grant)
The serenity...

Gem is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canberra, Australia
Posts: 926
How does this one compare with a book like Hartung's? Hartung's is one of my favourite books! It is always good to have a book written for the size scope you use. I found Hartung's (in the days when I was using a 10 inch dob) really useful.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 29-04-2011, 09:13 PM
Paddy's Avatar
Paddy (Patrick)
Canis Minor

Paddy is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Strangways, Vic
Posts: 2,214
I haven't used Hartung's, but had a friend's copy of Burnham's on long loan at the same time as I started using the Night Sky Observer's Guide. There were many objects for which Burnham's had more detail, but I personally found the Night Sky Observer's Guide easier to use partly due to layout, the size of the book (ie larger format), the way the charts fit so well with the notes, the sketches and photographs etc.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-05-2011, 03:20 PM
Suzy's Avatar
Suzy
Searching for Travolta...

Suzy is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 3,700
I just got delivery of my book today (Vol.2 Spring & Summer)! Such a big book- about the size of an encyclopedia.
I love this book- I wish there was an emoticon doing cartwheels!!
I like how the charts are broken up into what you can see visually in the sky and then another chart for the finder scope. Love how at the beginning of each constellation it gives a listing of interesting objects/stars/binocular targets, and lots of sketches of what to expect to see out of the fov of an eyepiece. And really really like how it doesn't waste half of the book explaining about planets, moons, eyepieces, yadda yadda yadda. Just get's straight to the point of observing. Also like the listing of what the object looks through different size scopes, though it gets rubbed in to ones face a bit when you read down to what he says about looking through a 16" on M104 for instance, quote "magnificent!" blah blah (all the details we 10"-ers miss out on and get teased with. And it's actually good when he says "faint" in scopes of 14" or 16" I know not to bother trying to pick it up in my 10". It certainly gives me great guidance to what's do-able for the equipment I have.

It is a pretty intensive book and will be a good companion to my other observing books, which each in their own way provide me with different assistance.

For example:

(Hartungs for a quick go to reference and to get his report)

"The Messier Objects" by Stephen James O'Meara. This book teaches me how to observe, he really makes me think and to look harder. Very easy to comprehend.

"Stars and Planets" by Ian Ridpath & Wil Tirion. My absolute right hand at the scope, could never be without it. Easy glance of map on one page, and on the other page a listing of all the objects/spectral types of stars/astrophysics (how distant object is, magnitude etc). If I find something I don't know what it is- this book will quickly tell me. Shiny pages (which handles dampness outside well) and small enough to handle on my lap at the scope.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-05-2011, 12:31 AM
Jen's Avatar
Jen
Moving to Pandora

Jen is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Swan Hill
Posts: 7,102
Yes Paddy got me loving these books too which i will have to add to my collection very soon
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 07:19 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement