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Old 31-05-2010, 06:07 PM
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M16 Starless and more stars

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On recent feedback, here is a (bigger) Sid with more stars, slightly less bright and a bit more star colour (although not on the big ones , I give up).

And here is my favourite, a STARLESS version, this is what I like, none of them pesky, irritating, distracting, wouldnt-see-them-if-you-were-right-there punks . God got that seriously wrong when he left them there after they do that creation thang, very unasthetic .
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Old 31-05-2010, 08:12 PM
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OMG Fred! That's sublime. Utterly unthinkably good for an amateur.
Who would have thought such things would be possible in our lifetime.
Thanks for sharing, and I hope you don't mind this adorning my desktop for quite some time.....
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Old 31-05-2010, 09:06 PM
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That starless version is a watercolour landscape painting from heaven.

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The bigger version with stars - GORGEOUS! (but I'm repeating myself )

The starless version - YUK! (so there!! )
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Old 31-05-2010, 10:05 PM
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wow fred.. that's some serious ^&(* you're pulling together there.

i also like the starless version. are you using a continuum filter to subtract from your narrowband images or doing it all in software?
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Old 31-05-2010, 10:21 PM
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Super images Fred. I like them both. Did you put a bit more red in them or were they always like that? They seem a bit more balanced.

By the way the star one has a little processing artifact bottom left like a healing brush scar on the image.

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Old 31-05-2010, 10:47 PM
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Beautiful Images there Fred, both stunning
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Old 31-05-2010, 10:59 PM
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Fred, like the revamped 'star- more' version as it's larger.

Now this is really weird, BUT, I think I like the starless version the best, there's just something about it..... might be the 'within the neb' feel to it.. the un-speckled, lovely sea of blue.... love blue things in space!
Gol darn, what have you done to me.....

All good Fred.

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Fred, you are the Grunge, the Heavy Metal and the Punk of astroimaging, loud in ya face and a bit crass.... but... it can kinda sound pretty cool

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ditto on my previous comments
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:57 AM
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OMG Fred! That's sublime. Utterly unthinkably good for an amateur.
Who would have thought such things would be possible in our lifetime.
Thanks for sharing, and I hope you don't mind this adorning my desktop for quite some time.....
hehe, thanks Rob, Ive seen a few in this manor, cant claim to be 1st and gear and PS advances lately have certainly helped thats for sure. Im chuffed its on your desktop and pleased to see the pic gets some real use

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That starless version is a watercolour landscape painting from heaven.

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Thanks H, how to get it really smooth is the next challenge.

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The bigger version with stars - GORGEOUS! (but I'm repeating myself )

The starless version - YUK! (so there!! )
thanks Marcus, sigh, well, im tempted to keep doing starless, but ill always do a (squirm) stared one too, for you .

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wow fred.. that's some serious ^&(* you're pulling together there.

i also like the starless version. are you using a continuum filter to subtract from your narrowband images or doing it all in software?
Phil (and pulling is pretty appropriate ). I tried the continuum filter some time back, but its a tedious painfull way to do it, no wonder not many ppl bother. So I pretty much process stars out as per Astroanarchy s "tone mapping" (in PS), now right there is the Heavy metal punk of astroimaging . In fact the stars are removed early on and reinserted at the end, processing is MUCH easier in every way, and you can push much harder without worring about stars being destroyed.

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Super images Fred. I like them both. Did you put a bit more red in them or were they always like that? They seem a bit more balanced.

By the way the star one has a little processing artifact bottom left like a healing brush scar on the image.

Greg.
The (RGB) colour in the small stars was already there, I never "add" colour (or anything) I wouldnt be comfortable with that, or it would be open slather . Star colour is often more round the edge of stars, gradually becoming white in the middle, so when you make them smaller, the colour dissappears (on the big ones), and NABG cams saturate fast, I often have trouble with saturation in the middle of stars (with RGB), need to work on that.

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Beautiful Images there Fred, both stunning
Thanks Ron

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Fred, like the revamped 'star- more' version as it's larger.

Now this is really weird, BUT, I think I like the starless version the best, there's just something about it..... might be the 'within the neb' feel to it.. the un-speckled, lovely sea of blue.... love blue things in space!
Gol darn, what have you done to me.....

All good Fred.

Rich
thanks Rich hehe, I dont pretend to be accurate, so I understand those that like stars in pics but might accept a bit of artist license on occassion .

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Fred, you are the Grunge, the Heavy Metal and the Punk of astroimaging, loud in ya face and a bit crass.... but... it can kinda sound pretty cool

Mike, and for your patience on a bit of eye bashing on ocassion. I like a bit of metal too, but it has to be LOUD .

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ditto on my previous comments
Thanks again Trevor.

Im chuffed by the kind comments, but I might be pushing it now, so enough Sids for now, onwards and upwards .
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:08 AM
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OMG !!!
I'm working on the Pillars myself but this is just unbelievable.
Amazing
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:40 AM
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Awesome stuff Fred.
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:07 AM
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Incredible. Switching between the two is amazing.
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:20 AM
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Fred, superb !
Allows you to focus just on 'structure'.
I love both actually.

BTW the kids absolutely loved it too.

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"Starless" is the way to go. I love the comparison.
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This is now IOTW.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:49 AM
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Well done again mate. Congrats on IOTW. Well deserved.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:39 PM
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This is now IOTW.
There goes the neighbourhood......
J/K of course.

Congrats mate a well deserved accolade indeed.

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wow - could this be a trip to parkes?
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