Go Back   IceInSpace > Equipment > Software and Computers
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 23-11-2009, 06:24 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
What is this?

Hi guys, I'm posting some data I acquired last new moon week-end. I was starting to collect some 10min subs on M78. It's quite faint so it's a work in progress and I have only a portion of the data I need.

Something got me stumped in those subs though. I definitely know it's not guiding or micro jumps while guiding. Only some of the stars got it and not necessarily the bright ones. And it's consistent on every single sub. I have no idea what is is. A little spike going towards the right of the field, like a little diffraction spike.

Have a look and let me know what you think.
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (M78_color_scaled.jpg)
197.6 KB120 views
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 23-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Geoff45's Avatar
Geoff45 (Geoff)
PI rules

Geoff45 is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,631
Tube currents? Maybe a hot area pooling at the top of the tube.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 23-11-2009, 08:58 PM
DavidU's Avatar
DavidU (Dave)
Like to learn

DavidU is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: melbourne
Posts: 4,835
Which scope Marc?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:10 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghsmith45 View Post
Tube currents? Maybe a hot area pooling at the top of the tube.
In a newt? My dewshield is fairly long but.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidU View Post
Which scope Marc?
5" newt so open tube. That was at the end of the night around 3:30am so I'd say the mirror would have been to ambient as it's small piece of glass.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:12 PM
DavidU's Avatar
DavidU (Dave)
Like to learn

DavidU is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: melbourne
Posts: 4,835
Have you checked the tube for insect webs? Maybe near the secondary?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:20 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
Yeah. It's squikky clean. That's a stack of 5x10min subs there. The exact same spike appears in all of them. It's not a registration problem either. And it's not like a foreign object that stayed there for 50min. Never seen that one before. That's what got me puzzled. It's not a read out artefact either because the sensor read out goes the other way. Those frames have been rotated 180 degrees.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:38 PM
DavidU's Avatar
DavidU (Dave)
Like to learn

DavidU is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: melbourne
Posts: 4,835
It has to be collimation, it appears the airy disc center is 1/3 to the center of the CCD. It is not in the same plane as the diffraction spikes but 10-15 degrees lower than the RH spike.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:50 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidU View Post
It has to be collimation, it appears the airy disc center is 1/3 to the center of the CCD. It is not in the same plane as the diffraction spikes but 10-15 degrees lower than the RH spike.
Nope... here's the field curvature for this particular shot.
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (M78_collim.gif)
73.1 KB52 views
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Terry B's Avatar
Terry B
Country living & viewing

Terry B is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Armidale
Posts: 2,790
They only seem to be on the right hand side of the image. I would have thought they are from the image plane not being parallel with the focal plane.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 23-11-2009, 09:57 PM
DavidU's Avatar
DavidU (Dave)
Like to learn

DavidU is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: melbourne
Posts: 4,835
The depth of curvature distortion area is about 15 degrees to the right.
Difficult one.......
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 23-11-2009, 10:01 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry B View Post
They only seem to be on the right hand side of the image. I would have thought they are from the image plane not being parallel with the focal plane.
Actually you're right. I've looked at this picture for too long. I didn't even notice it. Now you mention it they get worse from the middle onwards to the right. I did take the QHY8 off the focuser to check if the glass wasn't fogged up and put it back. I might have tilted it slighty but I thought I had it flash with the focuser face. Seems it doesn't take much at all.. bugger!. Thanks for picking this up.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 24-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Geoff45's Avatar
Geoff45 (Geoff)
PI rules

Geoff45 is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,631
I would have thought that a tilt would give you symmetric eggs rather than the weird shape you have.
re the tube currents--I just assumed you were using your SCT.
Geoff
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 04:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement