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Old 29-09-2006, 06:38 PM
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Balancing a dob - my way

I see in various threads people worrying about heavy eyepieces etc upsetting the balance of their dobsonian. Some suggest mods like adding felt to bear against the altitude hubs to increase the friction.

After having my gso dob for three years I have finally come to a point where I can say that I'm happy with the way that the scope moves. Movements should be light and with friction closely matching "sticktion".
This makes tracking objects at high powers a breeze, instead of the jerky frustrating experience you get with the scope as it comes from the shop.

I firmly believe that the tension spring arrangement on gso dobs doesn't help the altitude movement one bit! They rely on excess friction as a band-aid solution to the real problem, which is poor balance.

The scope moves much more nicely if the altitude springs are not used, but then there can be balance issues to contend with, especially if you done mods to make the altitude hubs more slippery, as I have by wrapping ebony star strips around them.

I solved the balance problem with 2x 1kg rectangular lead divers weights strapped to the rear of the scope. This overweights the rear end and I counterbalance this with a large speaker magnet that I stick on the tube at the viewing end. Adjusting balance at the viewing end makes life much easier

The result is that I have the magnet on near the top when using lightweight eyepieces such as plossls, and I lift it off and sit it near the alt hubs when I pop in the 31mm nagler.
No other counterweight scheme could be quicker or simpler to adjust, and I always get nicely balanced low friction/stiction movement regardless of the eyepiece I chose to pop into the focuser

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  1. Black felt covered magnet on top of tube, lead weights strapped to rear.
  2. Rear view showing weights strapped at 4 and 8 o'clock to miss rocker box
  3. Ebony star on alt hubs . Alt springs only attached during transport
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Old 29-09-2006, 06:43 PM
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In case anyone is wondering, thats another luggage strap that goes around the tube either side of the alt hubs and through a piece of electrical conduit to serve as a carry handle for the OTA.

It sure makes carrying the OTA and lifting it in and out of the car much easier
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Old 29-09-2006, 08:18 PM
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Nice work Geoff.

What do you wrap around (or under) the magnet to stop it scratching?
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Old 29-09-2006, 10:52 PM
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a lot of thought went into that setup. looks good. the 31 nagler isn't the heaviest anymore, I think a few of the Meade hand grenades are weighty , will it take a camera?

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Old 30-09-2006, 08:12 AM
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the peltier cooling system adds a bit of weight back there, so i have added a magnet to the top end like Ken did months back.

nice work geoff
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Old 30-09-2006, 08:31 AM
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Geoff, why have you repositioned your alt spring attachment point to the rear of the rocker box?
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Old 30-09-2006, 10:19 AM
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Mike I was given the magnet, and it was already covered in self adhesive velvet.

No cameras for me houghy.

Paul, the spring attachment point is the way it came when I bought it. The springs now are only attached when I move the scope, and not while viewing.
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Old 30-09-2006, 11:11 AM
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Mike I was given the magnet, and it was already covered in self adhesive velvet.
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:54 AM
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Excellent set up

I have been given some ebony star and teflon pads to play with - thinking of putting them on the LB. Will need to weigh the scope first, not sure how my bathroom scale will cope!

Cheers Petra
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