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20-07-2016, 10:31 AM
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I am not too concerned Glen. We still have excellent cameras and got them at a very good price. Now that the software is working well, there is nowhere for the new camera to improve on what we have. There are other ways to get a USB connection to a filter wheel, although having it on the camera could be convenient.
let's see what price the new version comes in at.
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20-07-2016, 01:14 PM
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Ray I agree it is an excellent camera at that price point, and I am enjoying it. I am only trying to clarify what I was hearing re new developments.
I have now heard back from Sam (ZWO) via CN mail and here is his response:
" the new version just added 2 x usb2.0 port but removed the ST4 port
because we think USB2.0 port is more useful than the ST4 port
so you can connect the EFW or guider camera to the hub
this is a hardware change and no need for software driver change
So it looks like all the new deliveries coming into the supply chain will be in this 2 x USB2 port configuration, with the USB3 link remaining back to the computer . Effectively it will be a 2 port hub arrangement on the camera. How this will work in company with the camera downloads, focusing, etc will become clearer in time, but I assume they will have tested simultaneous comms with filter wheels and guide scope. The guide camera comms would be the more problematic I would think. No news on how, or if, this would affect pricing. Anyone about to buy should probably ask about V1 or V2.
I am happy enough to have my filter wheel and guide camera separate from the 1600, and running through my Mbeat powered hub. They work without issue. It's already a rare classic.
Last edited by glend; 20-07-2016 at 01:35 PM.
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20-07-2016, 01:35 PM
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Image of the new design for the ASi1600
Image of the new design is here, note the ZWO filter wheel is in the shot as well:
http://www.cloudynights.com/uploads/...1468978246.jpg
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20-07-2016, 08:49 PM
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Location: Flaxton, Qld
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Looks good. The filter wheel - is it 5 x 1.25"?
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20-07-2016, 10:11 PM
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Drifting from the pole
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Brisbane
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I can imagine some might be interested in the USB hub, but I use an mbeat hub stuck to my mount that works well. I don't see any big advantage with having it on the end of the camera.
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21-07-2016, 06:58 AM
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Well, it is one less item needed, but it's not a massive advantage. More a nice to have.
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26-07-2016, 07:21 AM
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Location: Wonthaggi Vic
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Well mine arrived yesterday. Be awhile till I use it as I've just moved and have to setup a pier ect
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26-07-2016, 08:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speach
Well mine arrived yesterday. Be awhile till I use it as I've just moved and have to setup a pier ect
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Congrats on the new camera Simon. At least you can shoot Darks and Bias Frames and start getting that library together if your desperate to power it up.
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26-07-2016, 11:09 AM
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Drifting from the pole
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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Mine just arrived. It has the integrated USB hub
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26-07-2016, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopardalis
Mine just arrived. It has the integrated USB hub
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Its all happening now. So Dunk will you be posting some images tomorrow, ha ha? Have fun.
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26-07-2016, 01:21 PM
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Drifting from the pole
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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Not tonight unfortunately, but AstroFest is only a couple of days away
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08-08-2016, 09:52 PM
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Farting Nebulae
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Tamleugh, Victoria, Australia
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Got mine, but waiting for 2 crucial adapters for my new filter wheel setup. Cam seems to be working great with The SkyX software.
Just saw this very nice pic on AB, shows its good resolution
http://www.astrobin.com/258322/
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21-08-2016, 09:58 AM
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ZWO T2 Tilter Released
Anyone who feels that they need some tilt control for their camera should check out the new ZWO T2 Tilter that is now up on the website here:
https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com...ies/t2-tilter/
Price is $38 USD.
Looking at how the photos show it mounted, it would seem for most MM owners, they will need to place it on the scope side of the filter wheel and screw the normal T2 adaptor to the Tilter. The adjustments might be a bit fidely when the T2 adaptor base is placed right against a focuser.
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21-08-2016, 10:11 AM
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Farting Nebulae
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Location: Tamleugh, Victoria, Australia
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Thanks Glen. Hope we don't need to use that often, it'll stuff up back focus setups for many ppl.
Just saw this gorgeous shot over at CN, 10 min subs.
The bloke mentions the firmware update, is that different to the ZWO driver download?
http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/54...0-and-asi1600/
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21-08-2016, 11:16 AM
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Sam did a firmware upgrade on my camera during a Teamview session but i believe most, if not all, of that can be had via the latest driver download, but i could be wrong. Ask him.
Re 10 min narrowband subs, completely un-neccesary with this camera in my opinion. My standard narrowband sub is 5 min at Unity (Gain 139). You could i suppose shoot at a lower gain setting for longer to minimise the little noise there is but i find 5 min optimal for what i am doing.
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21-08-2016, 11:57 AM
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Just saw this post at the ZWO forum, looks like amp glow is controlled by updated ASCOM drivers and options.
Nice to hear re sub lengths
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30-08-2016, 10:08 AM
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There is a very informative and detailed discussion on ASI1600MM-C Gain settings and performance impacts on Cloudy Nights currently running here:
http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/54.../#entry7403127
Jon Rista has expained it well and offers comparisons with the KAF-8300 chip cameras as well.
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05-09-2016, 08:27 AM
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Experiment with High Gain Setting Narrowband
For those interested, there is a write up (and images) on Cloudy Nights (by Jon Rista) on high gain narrowband imaging with the ASI1600, worth a read:
http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/54.../#entry7414496
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05-09-2016, 07:29 PM
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Farting Nebulae
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Thanks for posting Glen, those results look very promising.
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18-09-2016, 10:38 AM
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Interesting images taken with ASI1600MM and a range of telescopes: http://www.astrobin.com/groups/31/
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