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16-02-2008, 04:59 PM
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tHE NEW PENTAX k20d - MAN THERE ARE SOME NICE FEATURES WITHIN
This is a huge leap forward for Pentax, just the increase in versatility is simply breathtaking, but all this And its still only 12 bit where the new canon 40D is 14 bit? Have a look at the features - click on the youtube video and have a squiz.
It has certainly made me sit up and take notice. originally i wasn't thinking about upgrading the k10D - but now I am not so sure??
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16-02-2008, 05:51 PM
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I mentioned this camera a while back, but sort of got a ho-humm response.
That said, I agree, it looks like it will be a great astro-cam. The built in intervalometer looks particularly cool.
As for being 12 bit, it is probably the case due the very small pixels (but numerous at 14 MP!) , the well depth of the sensor is insufficient to justify a 14 bit D/A. There also technical reasons (that I won't go into here) as to why higher level D/A conversion (e.g. 16bit) probably won't happen in CMOS for a little while yet.
I'm very keen to get one, but not 'till April they tell me
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16-02-2008, 06:03 PM
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Too late for this ex-Pentax enthusiast H0ughy - I'm a rabid, dyed in the wool Canon fan now.
Cheers
Dennis
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16-02-2008, 06:46 PM
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Hi,
I was told by the Camera Warehouse they should be in Australia by the end of this month, maybe March.
I am going to get this one I think , or the Canon 450D is looking good so far.
Daniel...
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16-02-2008, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Ward
I mentioned this camera a while back, but sort of got a ho-humm response.
That said, I agree, it looks like it will be a great astro-cam. The built in intervalometer looks particularly cool.
As for being 12 bit, it is probably the case due the very small pixels (but numerous at 14 MP!) , the well depth of the sensor is insufficient to justify a 14 bit D/A. There also technical reasons (that I won't go into here) as to why higher level D/A conversion (e.g. 16bit) probably won't happen in CMOS for a little while yet.
I'm very keen to get one, but not 'till April they tell me
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not ho hum from me mate - I have had a Pentax for a long time - I even eyed off your glass collection for the Pentax when you were selling them . I love the K10D, but the next is a quantum leap in comparison
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16-02-2008, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis
Too late for this ex-Pentax enthusiast H0ughy - I'm a rabid, dyed in the wool Canon fan now.
Cheers
Dennis
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yes the 450d and the 40D are going to be nice - then the canon glass is a step ahead!! Its the 12 vs 14 bits that interests me. be great to have a direct comparison - have to wait a month or so
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16-02-2008, 09:12 PM
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david ......sit back down again
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16-02-2008, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alan meehan
david ......sit back down again
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16-02-2008, 09:27 PM
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Dazzled by the Cosmos.
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Originally Posted by alan meehan
david ......sit back down again
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Hey Al
I’m glad you’re keepin’ an eye on the young fella – he gets all carried away and excitable when new gear is announced!
Cheers
Dennis
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16-02-2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis
Hey Al
I’m glad you’re keepin’ an eye on the young fella – he gets all carried away and excitable when new gear is announced!
Cheers
Dennis
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but they look great
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17-02-2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kljucd1
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yeah they are cheaper than the 40d - and so they should be. Don't worry I am eyeing one off. Just need a tax cheque
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17-02-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
yeah they are cheaper than the 40d - and so they should be. Don't worry I am eyeing one off. Just need a tax cheque
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40D body is $1549
http://www.dirtcheapcameras.com.au/s...idProduct=1635
Paul
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17-02-2008, 09:44 PM
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Really well there ya go - I saw then at 1690 about two weeks ago - they must be dropping them to keep the sales going. Well now thats a hard decision then?
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17-02-2008, 09:55 PM
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Hi,
Luckily all my lenses are compatible with the Pentax, and I don't want to have to pay out for new ones. Otherwise it might be a hard choice for me also.
Daniel...
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17-02-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuts
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I wander what price they will have the K20D for, might have to flick an email their way
Daniel...
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19-02-2008, 01:58 PM
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well it seems as though the pentax has a partner - the samsung GX-20 (same camera?)
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19-02-2008, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zuts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ughy
Really well there ya go - I saw then at 1690 about two weeks ago - they must be dropping them to keep the sales going. Well now thats a hard decision then?
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Stand up again Houghy !!! (two words Yun Lee)
Canon 40D @ $1449
Check out d-d-photographics.com.au
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21-03-2008, 01:26 PM
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Yep, and the 40d price has fallen again! $1349 from d-d with a tax invoice.
http://www.d-d-photographics.com/canon40d.htm
Even though I have heaps of Pentax glass, it seems the 40d is just better value than the K20d, based on its' 14-bit D-A alone. That is, provided the 14-bit converter can take advantage of the very small CMOS cells. If it cannot, then 14-bit is just a marketing trick.
I'm sure I've seen a website, somewhere, that has a real world test of 12-bit vs 14-bit in Canon DSLRs eg 400d vs 40d...
<edit> Ah, here it is.. Christian Buil. Seems 14-bit is a genuine improvement... http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/eos40d/test.htm
Cheers,
Rob
Last edited by Astrod00d; 21-03-2008 at 01:52 PM.
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