i really wished i could believe that 100 percent. i am 50/50 with this at the moment. My want for an apo of this size is huge - but common sense gets in the way
Ok, they have confirmed that they will accept Paypal payment, the main reason why they we're against it was the fee's (85USD) but if this fee is paid then, YES, Paypal is Accepted.
Ok, they have confirmed that they will accept Paypal payment, the main reason why they we're against it was the fee's (85USD) but if this fee is paid then, YES, Paypal is Accepted.
thats fantastic. probably cost that much getting a telegraphic funds transfer anyway
Who you calling an Ocker Huff? LOL.
Mind you if Martin has had a warm and fuzzy experience, I may be tempted to dip the toe in as well.
OK Gary, i will ask this one question, does this scope interest you, and do you think that it could be worth the purchase from the specs given and the features the scope exhibits?
Huff,
yes it does to be honest. I am a refractor nut, and keen to use a 5", as I already have a brace of smaller (one 63mm, and two 80's).
I am sitting ready to pull the trigger, but the threads on the Astromart Forums certainly are making me nervous, with most suggesting that a true apo this isn't. There is the stigma of being from China, as well as the eternal "you get what you pay for", and while I can see good and bad in both, it is a decent jump to find it isn't as good as we all expect. Mind you, it could quite easily be better than we expect.
Your question is aimed at my worldly (debatable) experience, or are you wanting to co-op with me??
Huff,
yes it does to be honest. I am a refractor nut, and keen to use a 5", as I already have a brace of smaller (one 63mm, and two 80's).
I am sitting ready to pull the trigger, but the threads on the Astromart Forums certainly are making me nervous, with most suggesting that a true apo this isn't. There is the stigma of being from China, as well as the eternal "you get what you pay for", and while I can see good and bad in both, it is a decent jump to find it isn't as good as we all expect. Mind you, it could quite easily be better than we expect.
Your question is aimed at my worldly (debatable) experience, or are you wanting to co-op with me??
Gary,
your experience as a refractor nut is sought, as for the co-op your a wee bit too far away for that, but i do know Photoncollector is keen to have a stab with me on this. knowing that we can pay via paypal is a nice step in the right direction, and the fact shipping is offered for within a week from payment...... but it promises soooo much................
Huff,
yes it does to be honest. I am a refractor nut, and keen to use a 5", as I already have a brace of smaller (one 63mm, and two 80's).
I am sitting ready to pull the trigger, but the threads on the Astromart Forums certainly are making me nervous, with most suggesting that a true apo this isn't. There is the stigma of being from China, as well as the eternal "you get what you pay for", and while I can see good and bad in both, it is a decent jump to find it isn't as good as we all expect. Mind you, it could quite easily be better than we expect.
Your question is aimed at my worldly (debatable) experience, or are you wanting to co-op with me??
I am late to this thread so I will ask gbeal a question about the A-Mart thread...Is this the same scope (similar) to the one on A-Mart showing the "coloured" picture?
While I do not know how representative the photo is (assuming it is the same/similar scope) but if so it looks like it may be more Achro than APO...it may still be a good deal for a refractor of that size but based on that photo I don't think I'd have high expectations for APO-like performance...
In answer to Scott's? question, the Astromart thread appears to be similar, but not the same exact scope.
It is here http://www.astromart.com/forums/view...news_id=&page=
What I do think is the same though is this thread, http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea.../o/all/fpart/1
If I read it correctly a fair bit of this world wide hype is a result of a few new scopes being shown at the NEAF meeting recently. How come the GSO R/C isn't receiving quite the same hype?
In respect of Houghy's complimentary ask though, I too am stuck between agreeing that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and value for money. The price on this scope involved in this very thread is exceptional to say the least, and even fits near an achromat. If it is ED or similar then the value certainly is there.
It is also expectations and pre-conceived impressions. I own a pair of Zeiss refractors, plus a recent TMB/Lomo optic refractor, and without sounding stuck up, if there is too much chromatic I would baulk at the prospect of a 5 inch apo which has chromatic. But again it is dependent on what you find offensive CA wise.
Deep down though I think that before long someone will have one in their hands and can give an assessment as to it's suitability.
In my case I doubt it will be me, as all correspondence I have had with the increasingly well known Gilman have indicated "NO PAYLAL", and "40 days delivery from order". If I read him correctly they receive the order, and then have the scope made. Not what I expected.
Does this help Houghy?
Guys 90 % of the scopes you buy are sourced out of China how many are truly made in the good old USA labour costs being what they are. Compare this scope to any other so far being offered. Also ask for spec's ie: where are they sourcing the len's etc and what is their QC. Ask if they have a return policy if the scope does not match the spec's given or the quality is not up to scratch. Never be afraid to ask.
In answer to Scott's? question, the Astromart thread appears to be similar, but not the same exact scope.
It is here http://www.astromart.com/forums/view...news_id=&page=
What I do think is the same though is this thread, http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea.../o/all/fpart/1
If I read it correctly a fair bit of this world wide hype is a result of a few new scopes being shown at the NEAF meeting recently. How come the GSO R/C isn't receiving quite the same hype?
In respect of Houghy's complimentary ask though, I too am stuck between agreeing that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and value for money. The price on this scope involved in this very thread is exceptional to say the least, and even fits near an achromat. If it is ED or similar then the value certainly is there.
It is also expectations and pre-conceived impressions. I own a pair of Zeiss refractors, plus a recent TMB/Lomo optic refractor, and without sounding stuck up, if there is too much chromatic I would baulk at the prospect of a 5 inch apo which has chromatic. But again it is dependent on what you find offensive CA wise.
Deep down though I think that before long someone will have one in their hands and can give an assessment as to it's suitability.
In my case I doubt it will be me, as all correspondence I have had with the increasingly well known Gilman have indicated "NO PAYLAL", and "40 days delivery from order". If I read him correctly they receive the order, and then have the scope made. Not what I expected.
Does this help Houghy?
OK I am now getting frustraited and confused. I have had no replies to a few emails I have sent. Can those who got emails from Gilman please post the contents of what he has said onto this thread? I am beginning to wonder about the whole situation?
i commited and bought a scope. After asking I graciously was given the following images. Please have a real hard look at the focuser image, what can you see? then you decide?
Got me beat Huff mate. But being a Feather Touch snob, and since you asked, is the answer: somewhere to tie the nylon when you go fishing?? LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist that.
Got me beat Huff mate. But being a Feather Touch snob, and since you asked, is the answer: somewhere to tie the nylon when you go fishing?? LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist that.
