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Old 28-04-2008, 08:57 PM
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APO Telescope

127mm f/7 APO $800 US

goto mount $500 US

all new direct from China

anyone brought direct from China before
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Old 28-04-2008, 09:31 PM
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Hi Trevor.

Got a picture? link? anything?
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Old 28-04-2008, 09:36 PM
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Dear Trevor Warner,

Thank you for your mail.
our ED APO127, f=952mm,
with dual speed adjust focus,
8x50 illuminating reticle finder scope,
2" 99% dielectric diagonal,
1.25" WA10mm/WA20mm,
aluminimu case,

FOB China USD810/set

if add altaz mount with built-in goto system, GPS, steel tubular tripod,
add USD500/set,

the sea freight to your Sydney is about USD60

Thanks

Gilman
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Old 28-04-2008, 10:46 PM
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http://www.made-in-china.com/showroo...Telescope.html

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2...-Telescope.jpg


for under a grand = interesting?
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Old 28-04-2008, 10:54 PM
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Houghy If only there was a astro buy a holic who would get one and test it for us all.....

From the photo where the dew shield extends out from the main tube there is a set of lines very much like the Meade OEM scope. I wonder..


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Old 28-04-2008, 11:00 PM
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sure sounds interesting to me
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Old 29-04-2008, 07:25 AM
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Nice to see what these are like. Would be interesting to add to the observatory.
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Old 29-04-2008, 08:48 AM
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Is this going anywhere? Daunting, individuals contemplating/dreaming of direct purchasing (and from China) but isn't this the material stuff of the dreams expressed sometimes by IIS members re cooperatives etc....?

Or does this type of thing just become another dealer opportunity....?

Being an old "fraccy" buff it's caught my imagination - but there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.....

Anyone seriously interested in following this lead up from some sort of cooperative approach....

Check this proposal: we get 30 to 50 people to kick in $30 odd each and draw straws for the lucky tester/first option person....?

Would also act as test run for importation, I'm sure there'd be customs brokers, import regulations/possible licences etc.....

Maybe a pipedream, maybe just too hard..... but what about it fellas?!?

Cheers, Darryl
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:19 AM
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To be honest i think that this is the same scope marketed in Australia by MyAstroShop http://www.myastroshop.com.au/produc...asp?id=MAS-430 , so there is a dealer already. As for the cost it is posted as $3100. Now please note that this may not be the same scope
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:22 AM
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Houghy If only there was a astro buy a holic who would get one and test it for us all.....

From the photo where the dew shield extends out from the main tube there is a set of lines very much like the Meade OEM scope. I wonder..


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well there is. I think Alan Gould has bought one (from Myastroshop) marketed in australia as prostar
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:31 AM
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To be honest i think that this is the same scope marketed in Australia by MyAstroShop http://www.myastroshop.com.au/produc...asp?id=MAS-430 , so there is a dealer already. As for the cost it is posted as $3100. Now please note that this may not be the same scope
It looks like the same scope, right down to the cut foam in the case.
If the price of USD810 is for one item, that's a good price and the freight cost of USD60 implies a single item. If you need to buy a container load, well it's a bit difficult...
Landed price? USD870 inc seafreight is around AUD945.
I think lenses/OTAs are exempt from duty but not GST.
Add GST AUD94.50, add customs charges AUD55, comes to AUD1094.50, but there may be some surprises I haven't allowed for.
I guess you'd need to add about USD200 for courier/airfreight if you were in a hurry to get it.

Still a bargain. I want one to replace my ED80. If I brought a few in, would anyone be interested in one?

Cheers,

Rob

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Old 29-04-2008, 11:31 AM
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gst.....

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It looks like the same scope, right down to the cut foam in the case.
If the price of USD810 is for one item, that's a good price and the freight cost of USD60 implies a single item. If you need to buy a container load, well it's a bit difficult...
Landed price? USD870 inc seafreight is around AUD945.
I think lenses/OTAs are exempt from duty but not GST.
Add GST AUD94.50, add customs charges AUD55, comes to AUD1094.50.
I guess you'd need to add about USD200 for courier/airfreight if you were in a hurry to get it.

Still a bargain. I want one to replace my ED80.

Cheers,

Rob
Items under $1000 Aus don't attract GST, so there's one saver.....

No-one interested in my suggestions....?

Cheers, Darryl.
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:37 AM
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It looks like the same scope, right down to the cut foam in the case.
If the price of USD810 is for one item, that's a good price and the freight cost of USD60 implies a single item. If you need to buy a container load, well it's a bit difficult...
Landed price? USD870 inc seafreight is around AUD945.
I think lenses/OTAs are exempt from duty but not GST.
Add GST AUD94.50, add customs charges AUD55, comes to AUD1094.50, but there may be some surprises I haven't allowed for.
I guess you'd need to add about USD200 for courier/airfreight if you were in a hurry to get it.

Still a bargain. I want one to replace my ED80. If I brought a few in, would anyone be interested in one?

Cheers,

Rob
at that price i certainly would
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:39 AM
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Is this going anywhere? Daunting, individuals contemplating/dreaming of direct purchasing (and from China) but isn't this the material stuff of the dreams expressed sometimes by IIS members re cooperatives etc....?

Or does this type of thing just become another dealer opportunity....?

Being an old "fraccy" buff it's caught my imagination - but there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.....

Anyone seriously interested in following this lead up from some sort of cooperative approach....

Check this proposal: we get 30 to 50 people to kick in $30 odd each and draw straws for the lucky tester/first option person....?

Would also act as test run for importation, I'm sure there'd be customs brokers, import regulations/possible licences etc.....

Maybe a pipedream, maybe just too hard..... but what about it fellas?!?

Cheers, Darryl
i think the global shares might be too hard to attain, but if someone can import a few in then i am interested.
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:46 AM
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As the scope should just scrape under $1000AUD, there should be no customs duty to pay. i think - I don't think there is gst either - correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:55 AM
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Items under $1000 Aus don't attract GST, so there's one saver.....

No-one interested in my suggestions....?

Cheers, Darryl.
You're right, if you import just one scope, seafreight, it's possible to avoid GST provided the Aussie stays above about USD0.88. In this case, an individual can get a 'scope cheaper than a reseller who'd bring in more than one!

Not sure if I'd want to form a syndicate, seems it may get a bit complicated dividing viewing time around New Moon period. IIS membership is spread far and wide geographically. It'd be the perfect thing for a small astro club though.

Cheers,

Rob
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Old 29-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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On imports the GST threshhold is AUD$1000 including all freight and insurance.
Dont forget to add the cost of freight and insurance.
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Old 29-04-2008, 12:09 PM
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I think that hOughy is right it is a ProStar refractor. I really want one but at $3100 I cannot afford it. But this deal from China at about A$940 is just under $1000 limit not to have to pay GST and import duty (correct me someone if I’m wrong). If my Meade ETX and other stuff sell, then I’m going to order it. I have ordered few times from China (up to $60 worth) and never have problem so far. True, shipping and clearing of money is slow, but it always eventually arrived. Win or loose.
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Old 29-04-2008, 12:11 PM
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A Co-op purchase through some one here who has some experience dealing in imports from china might be the go. This certainly would make a nice upgrade to my Borg 100ED. But the Borg is a light weight champion, however i wonder if the optics are going to be any better?.

Some interesting links pertaining i think to the same scope. Manufactured by Kunning Optical in China and market by Maxvision.

http://www.hkastroforum.net/viewtopi...r=asc&start=15
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea...Number/2357303
Note the picture on the weight scales see the blue color at the point were Dew shield meets the main tube this coloring in red and blue is a signature sign of Maxvision scopes. The same feature can be noted in the rebadged Meade's.

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea...7/Main/2166788
http://astronomica.co.uk/EDTriplets....einfo&offset=0
Meade version
http://www.galileo.cc/english/descri...hp?ref=0112128


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Old 29-04-2008, 12:13 PM
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Thats a very cheap price.

I've been warned off 5" triplet apos by an owner who said they take hours to thermally settle because of the insulating air layer on either side of the center lens element. With the large temp changes we have at night they don't always work well in aussie conditions.

I'm sticking with the idea of a 120mm ED Doublet when I go down the photography route.
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