APO Telescope - Page 4

prova · #61 02-05-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by h0ughy

I have asked for bank details and payment methods and they have not replied yet - can you provide this information?

Unfortunately not yet because they haven't replied to my first email, do you know if they do Paypal?

h0ughy (David) · #62 02-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prova

Unfortunately not yet because they haven't replied to my first email, do you know if they do Paypal?

I asked about paypal yesterday - no reply yet but i do know that they read my email

prova · #63 02-05-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by h0ughy

I asked about paypal yesterday - no reply yet but i do know that they read my email

Really hope they accept Paypal because I'll really start sweating if I have to go deposit 'cash' into their account.

Even if they are some sort of online ordering that would be fine, just something to track if I need too

prova · #64 02-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Here is the email I just received and notice down the bottom they advise that US funds must be deposited into their account (no Paypal) -

Dear xxxxx,

Thank you for your mail.
our ED APO127mm,
All of objective lens is 3 elements/triplet objective and fully multi coating/FMC.
8x50 illumintating reticle finder scope.
2inch/50.8mm focuser tube and 2 inch/50.8mm 99% dielectric diagonal,
70 degree super wide angle eyepieces/WA10mm/WA15mm,
Dual speed adjusting focuser,
tube rings/dovetail rail.
Aluminiun case.

package : 21kg/99x29x44cm,
FOB China USD850/set

the postage is about USD200,
insurance fee is USD10,
additional handle charge for small order is USD50,

Optional accessories for our 127mm ED Apo Telescope:
Altaz mount with built-in goto system & GPS & steel tubular tripod
(packed in to a aluminium case)

FOB China USD480/set

8x50 erecting image finder scope with illumintating reticle finder scope,

FOB China USD75/pc

1.25"/31.7mm ED eyepieces as follows:
ED2.3mm,
ED3.8mm,
ED5.2mm,
ED7.5mm,
ED9.5mm,
ED12.5mm,
ED14mm,
ED18mm,
ED21mm,
ED25mm,

FOB China USD35/pc

1.5x, ED Barlow Lens, Fully Multi Coated

FOB China USD27

2"/50.8mm,2x, ED Barlow Lens, Fully Multi Coated

FOB China USD35

in addition, you need go to bank and pay your USD to our corp account,

any questions, please contact us.

Thanks a lot.

Gilman

prova · #65 02-05-2008, 07:58 PM

Ok, I've confirmed the following from the supplier:

1. Paypal is not accepted, I have all the necessary bank details
2. Price is USD850.00 + USD200.00 postage
3. Triplet elements are imported from Japan (so not Chinese)
4. 1 year warranty however I am awaiting a reply to find out whether or not there is a local dealer (doubt it)

TrevorW · #66 02-05-2008, 10:02 PM

If you are worried about paying into an account ask your bank's international dept the safest way to deal with a chinese compnay to ensure your shipment is sent before they get hold of your money

gbeal · #67 03-05-2008, 06:56 AM

I too worry about the security of this. I doubt they will ship before receiving the money though, and IIRC there is a 40 day lead in as well.

DJDD · #68 03-05-2008, 09:53 AM

what about credit card rather than paypal?
that way if the goods do not arrive you can dispute it. or is that only for australian traders?

gbeal · #69 03-05-2008, 10:37 AM

This is a good way of doing international business I agree, but this Chinese company is quite specific, bank deposit. Certainly no PayPal.

prova · #70 03-05-2008, 11:39 AM

No Paypal, bank deposit only .. have asked a few more questions so lets see what they come back with

mill (Martin) · #71 03-05-2008, 12:53 PM

To put the paypal debate to bed, i have paid via paypal when i bought my gotostar from them.
See this email:

Dear Martin Meupelenberg,

Thank you for your reply.
goto system is USD260,
postage is about USD45,

whether you need GPS module for goto system?
USD95,

insurance fee is USD10,

total is USD410

you may pay USD via paypal account : lindazlz@yahoo.com.cn

Thanks

Gilman

prova · #72 03-05-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mill

To put the paypal debate to bed, i have paid via paypal when i bought my gotostar from them.
See this email:

Dear Martin Meupelenberg,

Thank you for your reply.
goto system is USD260,
postage is about USD45,

whether you need GPS module for goto system?
USD95,

insurance fee is USD10,

total is USD410

you may pay USD via paypal account : lindazlz@yahoo.com.cn

Thanks

Gilman

Hi Martin, PM sent

gbeal · #73 03-05-2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mill

To put the paypal debate to bed, i have paid via paypal when i bought my gotostar from them.
See this email:

Dear Martin Meupelenberg,

Thank you for your reply.
goto system is USD260,
postage is about USD45,

whether you need GPS module for goto system?
USD95,

insurance fee is USD10,

total is USD410

you may pay USD via paypal account : lindazlz@yahoo.com.cn

Thanks

Gilman

Then the policy seems to have changed, as I was told "we can't use PayPal".
I would obviously prefer to use either a credit card, or PayPal, even just for the little protection it affords.
Gary

mill (Martin) · #74 03-05-2008, 03:13 PM

Gary they might have had bad dealings with paypal and that could be why they don't offer paypal payments anymore.
I paid my package on an Friday afternoon and Gilman did send it off on the next Sunday with an tracking number.
How is that for fast sending?
And the goto is excellent quality for $485 AU.
Goto this website to see how reputable they are.

http://www.hioptic.com/

They make scopes for observatories and the army, so they are not an small company

In my opinion you can trust them with your money

h0ughy (David) · #75 03-05-2008, 03:41 PM

surely the guy must be aware that he is being hit from a bunch of Aussies (sorry gary lumped you in this branding) for the same information and same methods of payment. I wonder if they would allow it?

gbeal · #76 03-05-2008, 03:44 PM

Who you calling an Ocker Huff? LOL.
Mind you if Martin has had a warm and fuzzy experience, I may be tempted to dip the toe in as well.

h0ughy (David) · #77 03-05-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gbeal

Who you calling an Ocker Huff? LOL.
Mind you if Martin has had a warm and fuzzy experience, I may be tempted to dip the toe in as well.

Well mate be proud to call you an Aussie

......suppose you get this scope

- you going to stencil a Zeiss logo on it

Suzy_A · #78 03-05-2008, 04:05 PM

Hay, H0ughy and everyone,

one of my friends is going to China in a few days, so if you like I can ask her to phone (either before or when she gets there) and speak to them. She lived in China for 15 years and knows how to deal with them...

As for sending money to dodgey Chinese bank accounts, I know about that - I once sent $6000 to one and it disappeared for a month before turning up, but in the end it was ANZ that lost it, not the Chinese end.

h0ughy (David) · #79 03-05-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mill

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In my opinion you can trust them with your money

i really wished i could believe that 100 percent. i am 50/50 with this at the moment. My want for an apo of this size is huge - but common sense gets in the way

paninaro · #80 03-05-2008, 09:06 PM

Just to clarify a few thongs here from import experience:

I bought in a William Optics 110ED, I won it on US ebay for US$1025, and it converted at US$0.92 to the AUS$, that made it about AUS$1100 landed cost, so GST is payable - no freight included in these prices.

My complication came about because WO did not put an invoice on the outside of the box - customs will not open it to retrieve it, so I had to go thru manual declarations as to its value (extra $$$ for the manual process!).

So tip number one is always get them to put an invoice for customs clearance purpose on the box.

This one above will come in sea freight so a customs clearance agent will be required (from $50-100 I believe) but no GST will be payable as long as it falls under the AUS$1000 mark. No duty is payable on scopes, I have imported 2 WO scopes with no duty charged.

Cheers, Alex