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Old 15-07-2013, 03:49 PM
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because of the weather and being crook i have placed myself in a position of not putting this up yet and testing. probably still wont get a chance until astrofest, but there is one thing that is bothering me and that it how it will work with tandum saddle bars? with the eq6 you could spin it around and it didnt matter, but noiw with the encoders and the home position i am not so sure? I am looking to setting up a c11 and solar scope side by side?
It's possible to sync the encoder positions off a catalogue star - it has really sharpened up my pointing. That will ovecome the first issue. A one star alignment alows you to update the home position offset, which should sort the second.

Its worth knowing about those two settings and they make a big diffrence to pointing when settting up the scope in any configuration, and as is typical, are hardly mentioned in the manual.
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Old 16-07-2013, 02:02 PM
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It's possible to sync the encoder positions off a catalogue star - it has really sharpened up my pointing. That will ovecome the first issue. A one star alignment alows you to update the home position offset, which should sort the second.

Its worth knowing about those two settings and they make a big diffrence to pointing when settting up the scope in any configuration, and as is typical, are hardly mentioned in the manual.
looks like astrofest will be a steep and hopefully productive learing curve.

i will be taking the c11 and hyperstar so if i do manage to get things humming - wow how many targets can i bag in a night?
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Old 16-07-2013, 05:22 PM
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Hi Ken, its all about maximising data collected in each panel. The better the overlap the faster noise disappears.
So why do people dither their sub frames?

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Old 16-07-2013, 10:25 PM
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Other PE Data

I have attached a couple of pics showing plots of successive raw PE records on a different data set to that which I posted previously; before smoothing or PEC curve creation, together with a frequency spectrum view of the same.

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Old 17-07-2013, 09:33 AM
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textbook high-end-mount result Maurice - smoothly varying worm error and nothing else.
Consistent pattern emerging from posted results - looks like the EQ8 is up there with the best. Regards ray

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Old 17-07-2013, 06:34 PM
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Does look good Ray. I hope the sky clears here so I can get more data.
Keen to see how repeatable it all is...

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Old 17-07-2013, 06:43 PM
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So why do people dither their sub frames?

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So that when stacking (and aligning), and tHe stars line up, chip artifacts move around and are deleted.
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Old 17-07-2013, 08:18 PM
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So that when stacking (and aligning), and tHe stars line up, chip artifacts move around and are deleted.
Exactly Fred, which is why I'm confused about Paul wanting to put his object in exactly the same position on his CCD night after night.

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Old 17-07-2013, 09:22 PM
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Exactly Fred, which is why I'm confused about Paul wanting to put his object in exactly the same position on his CCD night after night.

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David, I think Paul actually said "putting it to the same spot" and to within a couple of pixels the next night. This is as good as dithering as far as I can see anyway.
But you do need that sort of accuracy night to night and I'm afraid to say that with a well tuned eq6 or Losmandy G11, Sequence Generator can do that to within a few pixels. With the plate solving in SG this can be done with a photo taken last year or someone else's image you want to get for yourself and you don't need a PMX to do it with.
Demos at Astrofest if you are interested.
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Old 17-07-2013, 09:33 PM
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Yes I did not mean exactly the same spot I meant within 9 pixels or less and that is only the dithering that is causing that movement.
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Old 17-07-2013, 11:33 PM
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Thanks Gents,

I have no problems with my AP doing that, with the aid of plate solving, and have done so either in the observatory at Leyburn or out in the backyard on a tripod.

Paul's comment of the noise reducing faster with precisely repeated pointing didn't make sense.

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Old 17-07-2013, 11:36 PM
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BTW,

Very impressed with Jonathan's video. Will look forward to the development of these mounts and eqmod in the months and years ahead. Might end up with one as a workhorse mount for a scientific program I have in mind, and keep the AP for pretty pictures!

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Old 18-07-2013, 03:12 AM
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Hey Guys- So new EQ8 owner and I am curious how does one use a side by side with this mount- I do not see an OTA orientation option on the hand controller..
Anyone used a side by side with the EQ8 yet??...
Thanks Much..
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Old 20-07-2013, 08:52 PM
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Hey Guys- So new EQ8 owner and I am curious how does one use a side by side with this mount- I do not see an OTA orientation option on the hand controller..
Anyone used a side by side with the EQ8 yet??...
Thanks Much..
not sure yet - probably have a play with things at Astrofest
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Old 20-07-2013, 08:58 PM
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loaded the drivers for my keyspan rs232 to usb on my windows 8 lappy - then loaded the synscan updater and connected up the hand controller. a lot less painless than my first attempt to do this many years ago with 3.27. was easy to then upload the new firmware 3.35.
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Old 21-07-2013, 01:43 AM
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Dave, if you got an eqmod device, don't forget to get drivers installed for it too.
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Old 21-07-2013, 10:55 AM
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Dave, if you got an eqmod device, don't forget to get drivers installed for it too.
I have one but it is for the eq6 and eq5pro - bought as a set from OS but never used it. so what do I have to download for eqmod?
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Old 21-07-2013, 11:19 AM
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In Windows 7, connect to the Internet and just plug it in, it will auto install the drivers.
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Old 21-07-2013, 06:35 PM
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Dave, if you got an eqmod device, don't forget to get drivers installed for it too.
i'm glad you mentioned that...
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Old 21-07-2013, 10:56 PM
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Just waded through 24 pages of this thread as I am looking at purchasing the EQ8 in the future.

I can't see if this has already been asked, but how do you polar align this mount?
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