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11-03-2010, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Nuriootpa, South Australia
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So there really is a New Scope Curse...
Reading through a lot of the posts here, I had to chuckle at the "new scope curse" that causes thick cloud cover when someone buys a new scope..
Where I live we have had maybe 2 or 3 spatterings of rain since Christmas and very very little cloud either..
Last weekend I drove a 15 hour round trip in a day to pick up my new scope.
The night I got home and the following 2 nights...OOooOOOoooOOoo... HEAVY cloud cover
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11-03-2010, 02:19 AM
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Duncan
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Location: Weipa FNQld
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11-03-2010, 05:12 AM
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Plays well with others!
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ridgefield CT USA
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Yes, the curse is real...
Why?
At telescope factories around the world manufacturers put "moistions" inside the packaging to help preserve the scopes freshness and new scope smell.
Once opened at your home the moistions react with the atmosphere to cause at least cloud and usually rain. The number of moistions placed inside a scope are directly proportional to the cost of the scope...more expense more moistions...so the more you spend the longer and more likely the rain.
There must have been a lot of gear purchased recently in/around Melbourne to account for the big storms...
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11-03-2010, 07:25 AM
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Retired, damn no pension
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Obi Obi, Qld
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However the Moistons (so they finally put a name to them) also react to the level of desire felt about using a new scope. So the more you want to use your new scope the more prolonged and pronounce will be their effect.
You didn't happen to buy eyepieces and other accessories did you? If you did then you need to know that these have a multiplying effect on any Moistrons present. Similarly the multiplying effect is directly related to there costs and the desire to use said accessories. Some are worse than others, for example; a 13 mm ethos has about 25x the multiplying effect that a red light torch does.
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11-03-2010, 08:50 AM
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2 screw loose stargazers
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: directly under that cloud. Brisbane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [1ponders]
Some are worse than others, for example; a 13 mm ethos has about 25x the multiplying effect that a red light torch does.
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OK, Fes-up!
Which one of you bugg'rs bought a complete set of Ethos in the Redlands Qld!
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11-03-2010, 09:00 AM
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Location: Renmark, SA
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I was originally due to recieve the SDM on Monday (8th), and the next several days are forecast to be clear...and I don't have to be anywhere. Sure enough, first day off, wall to wall blue skies. Even last night was largely clear, against a forecast of showers!!!!!
Infact, every freakin day in the 7 day forecast says "sunny" or "mostly sunny"
whaaaat the???
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11-03-2010, 09:07 AM
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Like to learn
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: melbourne
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Moistons....... HAHAHAHAHA
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11-03-2010, 09:18 AM
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Teknition
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Location: Brisbane Australia
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11-03-2010, 09:34 AM
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Location: Beautiful SE Tassie
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Yes, alas, all very true. I STILL havent had more than 5 minutes out with my new Dob ..... then the skies started clearing, then my new DGM filter arrived, so cloudy again .
Yes, there has also been mass buying in SQLD, and obviously some Victorians have been busy
As Marty said.... great for the dams.
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11-03-2010, 09:42 AM
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Support your local RFS
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wamboin NSW
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Moistons, I love it.
Hi John, I had to wait 2 weeks before I could use my scope when it arrived. Mind you when I did get out under the stars I knew the scope inside out so new scope errors were reduced to almost zero.
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11-03-2010, 11:04 AM
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kids+wife+scopes=happyman
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: sydney, australia
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I also think it may be inversely proportional to the age of the instrument.
Example 1: Bought my Celestron C5 new- clouds for two weeks (very expensive 17 years ago)
Example 2: Got my 'new' 30 year old 17.5" Odyssey II, no clouds for a month!
Obviously the 'moistions' had worn out after 30years.
Mind you, do "they" also add moistions to paint? I'm painting the rebuild of the old dob, OOOOOOO.....
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11-03-2010, 11:38 AM
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4000 post club member
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Melbourne
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It works in reverse too.
One time I was selling a scope and when the fellow was able to come to my place and check it out the sky was fully overcast, so I wasnt able to demonstrate it on the night sky. He decided buy it anyway so 15 minutes after driving away with it the sky cleared up totally
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11-03-2010, 12:42 PM
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Location: Western Australia
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It's applies to everything astronomical not just scopes
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11-03-2010, 01:36 PM
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Retired, damn no pension
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Obi Obi, Qld
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Quote:
Obviously the 'moistions' had worn out after 30years.
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Moistions decay into evaporatons. And as we all know there is a direct correlation between the density of evaporatons in the upper atmosphere and the quality of the seeing.
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11-03-2010, 01:39 PM
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Like to learn
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Location: melbourne
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When I dropped and smashed my 6" refractor the weather strangely cleared up for days on end !
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11-03-2010, 01:40 PM
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Location: Monto
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Damn, I just ordered a collection of meteorites from the US.
Sorry
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11-03-2010, 01:48 PM
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Location: Perth, WA
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Haha!
Oh and to add to the Voodoo. If you live in Perth; Sunday nights are always clear.
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11-03-2010, 01:49 PM
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kids+wife+scopes=happyman
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: sydney, australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjnettie
Damn, I just ordered a collection of meteorites from the US.
Sorry
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What! you mean it's going to get foggy like London now, so that you won't even be able to see what you're holding!
OH, MAN...
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11-03-2010, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wollongong
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Well I've just bought a 28mm WO UWAN from the IIS classifieds but I'm not worried! After all, you'd never tell the difference around here.
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11-03-2010, 02:13 PM
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Plays well with others!
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ridgefield CT USA
Posts: 3,490
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [1ponders]
Moistions decay into evaporatons. And as we all know there is a direct correlation between the density of evaporatons in the upper atmosphere and the quality of the seeing.
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Excellent contribution and now new addition to my undersanding of how the water cycle works!
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