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Old 28-02-2019, 03:34 PM
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I've recently purchased a Quark to add to my H-alpha imaging system.

I'd appreciate feedback from quark owners who are also using 90mm or so aperture refractors....

Do you also use an energy rejection filter? or has heat build-up not been
a problem without one? (the manual says an 80mm limit...but who reads manuals )
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Old 28-02-2019, 04:09 PM
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Most users over on the SolarChat site add a UV-IR rejection filter for aperture less than 100mm...belt and braces.
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Old 28-02-2019, 04:15 PM
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Daystar says and most users follow the rule that you just need a uv/ir filter in front of the Quark up to 150mm . At 150 and over should use a front ERF
. I use mine with an 80 , 102 and 127 refactors with just a 2"uv/ir filter and no issues with heat at all.
I should add that if you have an oil spaced lens or rear elements thats a different matter.
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Old 28-02-2019, 04:59 PM
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Daystar says and most users follow the rule that you just need a uv/ir filter in front of the Quark up to 150mm . At 150 and over should use a front ERF
. I use mine with an 80 , 102 and 127 refactors with just a 2"uv/ir filter and no issues with heat at all.
I should add that if you have an oil spaced lens or rear elements thats a different matter.
Thanks very much....UV/IR it is then
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Thanks very much....UV/IR it is then
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The front ERF was more about reducing tube thermals in larger scopes rather than the risk of damage.
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Just a correction...
ALL the manufactures of Petzval designed (rear element) scopes have confirmed in writing are 100% safe to use without an ERF.
They are all confirmed to be suitable for use with a Herschel wedge with no up front protection.
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Just a correction...
ALL the manufactures of Petzval designed (rear element) scopes have confirmed in writing are 100% safe to use without an ERF.
They are all confirmed to be suitable for use with a Herschel wedge with no up front protection.
Thanks for that
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I've recently purchased a Quark to add to my H-alpha imaging system.

I'd appreciate feedback from quark owners who are also using 90mm or so aperture refractors....

Do you also use an energy rejection filter? or has heat build-up not been
a problem without one? (the manual says an 80mm limit...but who reads manuals )
Curious as to which one you got Peter?
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:37 AM
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Curious as to which one you got Peter?
Ha prom Quark.

Interesting beastie...first light was late yesterday afternoon.

The field illumination is no where near as uniform as my front mounted etalons, but, that said I was impressed with the contrast...hence I'd pick one of these over a PST any day...sure a little more expensive, but better views IMHO.

It also double stacked well with the 90mm etalon...very contrasty!
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but who reads manuals )
I do hope you read your manuals .... ' checklist ' ....before departure and on finals ....

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I do hope you read your manuals .... ' checklist ' ....before departure and on finals ....


Have to say the A380 FCOM was a daunting document that familiarity with
was definitely required for continued employment ..but have to observe in retirement, I don't miss the hours of study before a Sim session in the slightest
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was a daunting document that familiarity with
was definitely required for continued employment ..
I'll bet .... when in doubt ... read the ' Manual ' ... again and again and again
A Sim session ....I'll bet they throw up all sorts of ' scenarios ' at you ...!! ....little old lady walking down the runway right when your at v1
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I'll bet .... they throw up all sorts of ' scenarios ' at you ...!! ....little old lady walking down the runway right when your at v1
V1 cuts in the A380 were not too difficult......occasionally we had a little fun
in the Sim.... Such as flying a B747 under the Sydney Harbour bridge (it was a tight fit!).
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V1 cuts in the A380 were not too difficult......occasionally we had a little fun
in the Sim.... Such as flying a B747 under the Sydney Harbour bridge (it was a tight fit!).
Oh come on really...it's only a light twin .... ............. plenty of room..
I landed an ATR-72 on an Aircraft Carrier in FSX ...

Sorry ...didn't mean to go off topic, I'll keep quiet now...!!
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Oh come on really...it's only a light twin .... ............. plenty of room..
I landed an ATR-72 on an Aircraft Carrier in FSX ...

Sorry ...didn't mean to go off topic, I'll keep quiet now...!!
No probs....747 a light twin? Don't think so...but maybe if you had a double engine failure
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See my post here from a week back

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...d.php?t=173759
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I've recently purchased a Quark to add to my H-alpha imaging system.

I'd appreciate feedback from quark owners who are also using 90mm or so aperture refractors....

Do you also use an energy rejection filter? or has heat build-up not been
a problem without one? (the manual says an 80mm limit...but who reads manuals )

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...d.php?t=173759

And you don't need a front mounted ERF with an air spaced refractor of 120mm

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Tiffany Messerschmidt <tiffany@daystarinstruments.com>
Wed, Feb 27, 10:46 PM (2 days ago)
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Jeremy,
It is correct to say a front mount ERF is not needed with a 120mm refractor.

It's difficult to figure out why you are not achieving focus without being there. What size/ style eyepiece are you using?

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Daystar says and most users follow the rule that you just need a uv/ir filter in front of the Quark up to 150mm . At 150 and over should use a front ERF
. I use mine with an 80 , 102 and 127 refactors with just a 2"uv/ir filter and no issues with heat at all.
I should add that if you have an oil spaced lens or rear elements thats a different matter.
YOU are completely right

Daystar do NOT say you need a filter and you do not ONLY on oil spaced refractors Daystar clearly state this in leaflets and emails

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Jeremy,
It is correct to say a front mount ERF is not needed with a 120mm refractor.

It's difficult to figure out why you are not achieving focus without being there. What size/ style eyepiece are you using?

Tiffany
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