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07-10-2017, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tandum
The NBN is not broken.
When Optus arrived here their plan was to recoup investment over 13 years.
NBN's plan is to recoup investment over 3 years.
Costs are high for carriers so they won't pay to cover bandwidth requirements so the consumer suffers.
Get yourself informed.
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Mmmm.... so we have done well for our $50 billion?
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07-10-2017, 11:04 PM
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It's a big country
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07-10-2017, 11:07 PM
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What do you want to hear?
The original concept was optic fibre to everyone.
Liberals killed that.
You have what you get apparently.
My son won't rent a place unless it's on fibre.
He works from home a lot.
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07-10-2017, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Visionary
Mmmm.... so we have done well for our $50 billion?
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And you don't think the government will get that back.
I just said they have a 3 year time line.
Again. Get yourself informed if you want to troll these subjects.
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07-10-2017, 11:22 PM
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ok fellas first and last warning - keep it civil, and refer to the TOS
still contemplating the previous posts
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07-10-2017, 11:32 PM
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ban the truth.
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07-10-2017, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tandum
ban the truth.
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no Robin, just the politics and other nasty's that come with feverish posting if we were really banning the truth we would be in china
i am just trying to keep things civil mate that's all.
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07-10-2017, 11:40 PM
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Honestly, people just don't understand whats happening and blame NBN. It's not NBN it's a political fight like power supply. Change your provider....
Can I add CERN is a 27Km long pipe not a country wide network.
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08-10-2017, 12:10 AM
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Gotta say i think the fact the govt has split responsibility for different bits between different groups is std political policy to ensure no one can be held responsible, whilst all the hangers on can get juicy up front commissions.
Bit like the tunnel we never built down here. Funny how a union getting 30K in kickbacks results in a royal commission, but when "bankers" setting up loans for a tunnel can get 500 million for doing ( relatively ) nothing, it just gets swept under the carpet as "part of doing business"
Just listening to recent radio feedback on how people with problems with the NBN cannot get any help makes you wonder whats really going on.
We need to get a solid fibre backbone put in place first and then argue about who gets access to it, but Private industry will never do that if it means going outside the CBDs of the capital cities.
Its currently just another ABC learning or Pink Batts as far as i can see.
Andrew
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08-10-2017, 12:29 AM
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Changing my provider won't get my deteriorating copper replaced any sooner.
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08-10-2017, 12:01 PM
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It is clear my question has been misinterpreted as a partisan political post. My question was simple, not political, shouldn't we be enraged at the cost of the NBN? Cern, the worlds grandest and most expensive science experiment, so expensive multi countries were required to fund the experiment was a 1/3 the cost of the NBN.
When we see the Political Class embroiling us in profligate spending we should demand answers. We shouldn't sit passively and allow the unacceptable to simply slip by. The authors of the travesty that is the NBN enjoyed their gains. Like Uni students doing a runner from a restaurant, we are left with the bill.
Iceinspace has the greatest concentration of highly educated individuals I have encountered, outside a University or similar setting. Surely it is the task, the obligation, of the Scientifically literate to proclaim the Emporer has no clothes. The NBN has no clothes, the NBN is profligate, it is wasteful, it has squandered our Children's inheritance, don't we have a right to be angry? Surely, it is the task of the literate to denounce the waste that is the NBN, irrespective of political leaning, the medical truism "never let the sun set on pus" is true of the NBN, the literate need to lance the boil.
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08-10-2017, 12:28 PM
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I wrote a whole post but have decided to delete and write simply this as my last post in this thread.
It is obvious that nothing I can write will sway your in the least, regardless of the fact I have spent half of my life in the industry in question and know full well that what you are basing your argument on has a couple of serious flaws (That competition in the sector would continue to drive speeds as and when people were prepared to pay for them for one, and for the other that money spent on the NBN was dead money down a hole, to be left for our children to pay pack, I urge you to research how NBN is actually being funded before you continue that line of argument)
Comparing CERN and NBN I say is folly, apart from anything else, NBN versus CERN is not an either/or situation.
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08-10-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The_bluester
I wrote a whole post but have decided to delete and write simply this as my last post in this thread.
It is obvious that nothing I can write will sway your in the least, regardless of the fact I have spent half of my life in the industry in question and know full well that what you are basing your argument on has a couple of serious flaws (That competition in the sector would continue to drive speeds as and when people were prepared to pay for them for one, and for the other that money spent on the NBN was dead money down a hole, to be left for our children to pay pack, I urge you to research how NBN is actually being funded before you continue that line of argument)
Comparing CERN and NBN I say is folly, apart from anything else, NBN versus CERN is not an either/or situation.
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I sincerely hope you are correct and I am 100% wrong.
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08-10-2017, 01:19 PM
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OK, one more post.
So do I.
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09-10-2017, 11:05 AM
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09-10-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by clive milne
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Yes ...... SAME Bird & .......... SAME Master(s)
Best
JA
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09-10-2017, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Visionary
Australia could have easily afforded 2 or 3 CERN's at the cost of the NBN.
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I'm pretty sure that even one CERN would not be a viable proposition without something like a working NBN to allow physicists access to the petabytes of data that it generates!
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09-10-2017, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by leon
And I type this to you now on that plan which i renewed 4 months ago, and still have 14G left
It nearly lasts me a year
So what the hell are you guys doing
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I'm using one helluva a lot more than that - my typical monthly data requirement at home is about 300 GB to 500 GB. (And no, we don't even own a 4k TV!) Mobile data is simply not a viable alternative to fixed broadband for me.
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