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Old 30-01-2011, 11:31 AM
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Observatory security

As I inch ever closer to getting my Observatory started (there's always something else that has to be done first)

My thoughts have been turning to the issue of security and I was wondering what ideas other owners have to keep out the undesirables.

My first thought has been for a solid core door and a deadlock while the ROR assembly would have some type of clamp and padlock setup.

I don't want to sound paranoid but while living rurally offers great dark skies it also offer the criminals plenty of peace and quiet to go about their evil trade, and while things can be replaced under insurance it is that inconvenience of lost time as well of waiting for months or years for replacement items.

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Old 30-01-2011, 12:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure locks only keep honest people out.
Building a kennel next to the obs for adolf the rotty might deter most thieves
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Old 30-01-2011, 03:57 PM
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Ric ..... Put a sign on your door " Warning .. ALIENS INSIDE "

Other than that .... an endless " loop" tape recording of a " growling dog " .. .

Cheer up Mate ..
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Old 30-01-2011, 04:08 PM
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Ric, is your Obs far from your house?

Some good alarms are fairly cheap, but are really only any good if someone is near enough to hear it.

Other than that, I'd suggest a solid core or steel door with deadlock.
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Old 30-01-2011, 04:11 PM
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You'll probably have an internet connection to the obs... setup a CCTV and warning stickers in addition to the IR activate lights, alarm, live connection to an outside speaker so you can talk to the burglars, plus an IR tracking 5mW red laser that follows their movement via heat sensing (they will think someone has a rifle trained on them) ...
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You could get a wireless alarm with a GSM dialler, external screamer, internal screamer, and float the dialler across a 12V gel cell for power redundancy. At least you'd be called in real time if your alarm was tripped and it wouldn't be reliant on a hard phone line.

Additionally, you could set up IR video surveillance and hook it up to your web connection (dumping your recorded events to a server hidden somewhere for safety). It all helps, but won't stop someone who is determined to break in.

Hook your surveillance up to the web so that you can dial in whenever you want to check the cameras. ZomeMinder is a great, free unix software solution for video surveillance that is as robust as they come.

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You'll probably have an internet connection to the obs... setup a CCTV and warning stickers in addition to the IR activate lights, alarm, live connection to an outside speaker so you can talk to the burglars, plus an IR tracking 5mW red laser that follows their movement via heat sensing (they will think someone has a rifle trained on them) ...

Did I mention the electric fence?
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Old 31-01-2011, 12:12 AM
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Some interesting ideas to ponder over, ta lads.

I dont have a guard dog so the killer chickens will have to suffice.

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Old 31-01-2011, 12:14 AM
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Some interesting ideas to ponder over, ta lads.

I dont have a guard dog so the killer chickens will have to suffice.

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Swap the chooks for Geese and you have a very successful Medieval Burglar Alarm.

It actually works too. Try sneaking passed Geese!
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Old 31-01-2011, 12:19 AM
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I know all about geese Ken.

My uncle in Italy used to breed them on his farm. The rotten so & so's used to nip me behind the kneecap all the time.
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I know all about geese Ken.

My uncle in Italy used to breed them on his farm. The rotten so & so's used to nip me behind the kneecap all the time.
Yep.

Anyone goes near your Obs and the whole town will hear the geese honking, and the burglar screaming as they chase him and nip him

If they were good enough to keep enemy hordes out of Castles they'll keep a thief out of an obs
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Old 31-01-2011, 12:51 AM
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Another thought, I could always put my beehive right next to the Obs, Bee's always seems to freak people out. Don't know why though

They are friendly little critters.
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Old 31-01-2011, 12:57 AM
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Would activity at your obs affect the bees?
Just your presence there may make them want to set up a hive elsewhere
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Old 31-01-2011, 01:12 AM
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Not really as they aren't active at night or in the colder months and they are quite tolerant of activity within a couple of metres of the hive.
Wear light colours and you are not a threat to them.

Come swarming time you just split the hive into another hive with a new Queen and life continues on.
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You'll probably have an internet connection to the obs... setup a CCTV and warning stickers in addition to the IR activate lights, alarm, live connection to an outside speaker so you can talk to the burglars, plus an IR tracking 5mW red laser that follows their movement via heat sensing (they will think someone has a rifle trained on them) ...
On a serious note.....can this be done?????
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Old 31-01-2011, 04:28 AM
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Apart from all the suggestions, If somebody does break in ( or even a natural disaster) you might want to consider a back up of all your data that is stored on any puters in the Obs. If they take the laptop or puter from the Obs, and you have all your pics on there, you will have lost a lot of valuable imaging time!
Just a thought.......
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Old 31-01-2011, 06:30 AM
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I had an old house alarm in my old dome, which when set off had a 120db squeeler in the obs, I can tell you, you can only spend a couple of seconds in there when that goes off, unless you are wearing double the amount of hearing protection. You can hook up an outside warning. But a couple of good dead locks, latches and padlocks should be enough to warn any intruder away, and if you go away, pack your gear up and put it into self storage, it's insured and under surveillance.
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On a serious note.....can this be done?????
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You'll need one of these -> http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../an-aaq-24.htm

And modify it, as I don't think you want to heat up your "victim"
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I have 2 guard dogs that go absolutely nuts if someone they dont know you and you come on the property. One of them is a"jumper" and wants to get to know you but it seems to have a bad habit of dragging one of its paws when it jumps up which has the unfortunate side effect of whacking the target in the "nuts". This then leads to the target bending over in pain/astonishment which enables the other to grab the targets throat.
An effective duo.
I also have locks and padlocks on mine, as well as nosey neighbours in case they know the intruder.
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Another thought, I could always put my beehive right next to the Obs, Bee's always seems to freak people out. Don't know why though

They are friendly little critters.
Ric if they are so friendly why are you wearing all that gear
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