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11-10-2015, 10:56 AM
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Galaxy hitchhiking guide
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Sculptor Galaxy from ludicrously bright skies...
While it would be nice to have a dark sky at my observatory site...unfortunately 5 million other people in my neighborhood keep buggering it up....
This is not say sub-urban imaging is not possible. You just need to maximize
the signal to noise ratio....which, somewhat counter-intuitively, is what a larger aperture does.
Well, as per another thread, I've finally maxed-out the scope that will physically fit in the dome. The required tweaks are substantially done. The colour data will follow....but here is a lazy 90 minutes with the new 'scope.
The image link is here
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11-10-2015, 11:06 AM
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Wow! What a first light!
Sharp with beautiful contrast and definition.
Was that AOX guiding?
Anyway, the optics look half decent!
All the best with the new scope -- looking forward to the images you will produce with it.
Tim
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11-10-2015, 11:26 AM
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Absolutely love it Peter! Some fine detail and the contrast is like night and day. A few minor tweets needed as you say to fix up those stars... but it's looking superb! I look forward to what you will produce with it and congratulations on a beautiful setup!
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11-10-2015, 11:34 AM
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Awesome result Peter, now looking forward to more images from Shire
P.S. I know what you mean about light pollution - I used to shoot from a balcony in Rockdale, and that was pitch black comparing to what we have here in Paddy near Brisbane's CBD...
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11-10-2015, 12:28 PM
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Superb Peter. You must be happy with that.
Greg.
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11-10-2015, 12:35 PM
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Widefield wuss
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As I said with your recent test on NGC-1365 Peter, This is amazing for what is essentially a very quick image.
You must be very pleased.
What ever became of the 14" RCOS that has clearly been kicked out of its home?
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11-10-2015, 02:02 PM
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Novichok test rabbit
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Hang on, surely you need 6 months to collimate it?
Yup, that be some fine imagery right there.
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11-10-2015, 03:06 PM
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Ultimate Noob
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I'd be more than happy with a shot like that I am definitely looking forward to seeing what this telescope can do!
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11-10-2015, 04:43 PM
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Galaxy hitchhiking guide
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atmos
I'd be more than happy with a shot like that I am definitely looking forward to seeing what this telescope can do!
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Let's see.. happy? Yes Clapping hands? Yes:
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Originally Posted by LewisM
Hang on, surely you need 6 months to collimate it?
Yup, that be some fine imagery right there.
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Thanks.. all that was required was the Taka collimation scope, then minor tweak during a star test. So, yes, just 176 days short of 6 months
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Originally Posted by AlexN
As I said with your recent test on NGC-1365 Peter, This is amazing for what is essentially a very quick image.
You must be very pleased.
What ever became of the 14" RCOS that has clearly been kicked out of its home?
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Sold it a while ago now...a little too cheaply given the $AUD...but it's gone
to a good home.
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
Superb Peter. You must be happy with that.
Greg.
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Indeed. It's an absolute ripper of a scope. Set-up has been a breeze.
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Originally Posted by Slawomir
Awesome result Peter, now looking forward to more images from Shire
P.S. I know what you mean about light pollution - I used to shoot from a balcony in Rockdale, and that was pitch black comparing to what we have here in Paddy near Brisbane's CBD...
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I share your pain
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Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn
Absolutely love it Peter! Some fine detail and the contrast is like night and day. A few minor tweets needed as you say to fix up those stars... but it's looking superb! I look forward to what you will produce with it and congratulations on a beautiful setup!
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Thanks Josh....Naturally the clouds are now rolling...but I'm very happy with the early results. 4 hours and an hour each of RGB should bring out some very faint structures.
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Originally Posted by topheart
Wow! What a first light!
Sharp with beautiful contrast and definition.
Was that AOX guiding?
Anyway, the optics look half decent!
All the best with the new scope -- looking forward to the images you will produce with it.
Tim
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Ta..Yes I used the AOX...but only a 2 Hz
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11-10-2015, 05:04 PM
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Narrowing the band
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One's eyes rush to the sharpness and contrast. That is absolutely faultless. Close unequal doubles resolved. The detail and contrast in the dust lanes anywhere at all in the main galaxy. You must be delighted! Congratulations. Can't wait to see more.
Best,
Mike n Trish
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11-10-2015, 05:13 PM
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Narrowfield rules!
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Stunning detail and sharpness!. Given the mega months some have sorting issues, even with relatively premium gear, the speed you got to this stage is very impressive indeed. Have been watching your other thread on the Alluna with interest, its always interesting how things progress with new gear.
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11-10-2015, 05:21 PM
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Hmmm, not so easily impressed myself. Have you got an image of similar scale to my image? I would have thought a scope of that value and being 4" bigger than my scope it would produce a more detailed image, especially given both images were taken with an AOX and at similar Hz values.
Don't get me wrong, it is sharp, but it did not elicit a wow from me, and I had expected it would.
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11-10-2015, 08:00 PM
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90 MINUTES vs 14 HOURS is not exactly a worthy comparison, and Peter does note it's not final tuned yet.
Personally, I MUCH prefer the AP Honders images to even the Alluna, but that is just a personal opinion. The AP just WOWS me - John's, Greg's and Peters (old) images with the Honders really impressed me.
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11-10-2015, 08:25 PM
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My 2 cents.....unless you are comparing the two images taken at the same time and from the same place....apples isn't with apples:
Don't forget....different seeing can occur even at the same site from night to night.....Sydney versus country .....so many variables.....I would say from the preliminary data gathered - Peter can sleep easy knowing that the scope is awesome and will be an amazing tool for him to apply his incredible skills towards.
Tim
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11-10-2015, 09:17 PM
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Really, I don't know when, if ever, Peter will be able to demonstrate the potential of this telescope given the limitations imposed by its location. (so forgive me if I don't join in the fan boi accolades at this point in time)
As much respect as I have for Peter as one of the most skilled practitioners of the art of imagining (in the world), and that the instrument he is using is world class, let's be real.... that image proves nothing.
fwiw) here is 253 under better skies and a functionally equivalent telescope (all be it with processing that I find jarring to my sensibilities) :
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0911/NGC253_SSRO.jpg
I would take that as a bench mark and not a particularly hard one to match (given good seeing)
Peter can do better.
Last edited by clive milne; 11-10-2015 at 09:27 PM.
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11-10-2015, 09:45 PM
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Lee "Wormsy" Borsboom
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Well, I for one think it's a pretty damned good effort. Nice pic, and nice gear, Peter.... if one day I can afford such gear I'll be a very happy camper indeed.
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11-10-2015, 10:12 PM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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This thread is gold
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11-10-2015, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strongmanmike
This thread is gold
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Hell yeah..
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11-10-2015, 10:44 PM
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Mostly harmless...
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Stunning first'ish light. Thanks for sharing.
And glad to see you've reached ludicrous speed with little fuss so far
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11-10-2015, 10:56 PM
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Hi Peter,
that's amazing - but then again you have an almost 50 grand scope!
Well done.
cheers
Allan
PS - I'd like to see NGC 300 now.
Last edited by alpal; 11-10-2015 at 11:08 PM.
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