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07-01-2007, 03:16 AM
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CCD's by the Dozen
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Pick your Nagler
Well I have decided that for visual observations I really would like to up my game, so I am going to get rid of all my eye pieces and bite the bullet and buy a full set of Naglers.....
If you had a choice, which 4 would you buy? and why.
These will be used in all my scopes ie Megrez 80 , CPC11 , LB16 , LB12 etc etc
Above is the list of Naglers that are on the Bintel Website.........pick your best 4 choices
Last edited by Harb; 07-01-2007 at 04:00 AM.
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07-01-2007, 09:46 AM
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I picked the 3 type 4 naglers based on my preference for eye relief. No point spending all that cash on an expensive wide field if you don't have enough eye relief to comfortably enjoy it. For focal lengths shorter or longer than 12mm to 22mm, Pentax XW is a better choice.
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07-01-2007, 09:55 AM
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He used to cut the grass.
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My reasoning is much like Tony's, although if I was thinking of binoviewers I would have to include two 13mm T6s. (I can dream, can't I?)
Cheers.
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07-01-2007, 10:03 AM
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Im with casstony. If I had a budget to purchase four premium eyepieces, they wouldnt all be naglers
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07-01-2007, 10:33 AM
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Barb and David
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We have only one Nagler the 17 type 4 as a mid range focal length it performs perfectly in our 12" and like you Harb we're thinking of getting a 16" at a later date.
Whether it's Nebulae, Clusters or Galaxies this wide field EP is a gem
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07-01-2007, 12:05 PM
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Considering your scopes my pick would be the 9mm, 12mm, the great 17mm and the beautiful 31mm.
But I'd also consider the Pentax range too.
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07-01-2007, 12:42 PM
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Thanks for the input everyone.
I hadn't really thought about Pentax..................silly I supose, but I just assumed that the naglers would be better.
That makes things a little bit more complicated.......
I really would like to keep with the widest field posible.
cheers
John
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07-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harb
I hadn't really thought about Pentax..................silly I supose, but I just assumed that the naglers would be better.
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Thats the power of marketing
Also, widest field does not always = the best
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07-01-2007, 06:30 PM
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I agree with Geoff. The 7 and 10mm XWs have really grown on me and I would not be happy to swap them for T6s. The 30mm XW is pretty awesome too. I'm not Pentax fanatic, just go for what's best at every focal length. One of the last two EPs I bought was a Nagler 20mm T5. Very happy with it.
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07-01-2007, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janoskiss
I agree with Geoff. The 7 and 10mm XWs have really grown on me and I would not be happy to swap them for T6s. The 30mm XW is pretty awesome too. I'm not Pentax fanatic, just go for what's best at every focal length. One of the last two EPs I bought was a Nagler 20mm T5. Very happy with it.
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Exactly my thoughts, I just want to buy 4 of the very best eye pieces available.............not worried to much about brands.
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08-01-2007, 10:42 AM
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... and don't sell all your other EPs. It's good to have a set of decent but relatively inexpensive EPs you can let other people use without having to babysit them.
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08-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janoskiss
... and don't sell all your other EPs. It's good to have a set of decent but relatively inexpensive EPs you can let other people use without having to babysit them.
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Now thats a good idea!!!
I think I will keep my 12" LB after the new 16" arrives for the same thing!
cheers
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08-01-2007, 07:51 PM
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Only have one ..13 t6 ( no eyerelief issues ).like it lots .. its a little cheaper at bintel for a while ..good luck .
. and take your time .
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08-01-2007, 08:25 PM
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Phil H
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I have 31mm,13mm,2.5. 4times powermate, 2.5times powermate, and the 2times powermate. Love then all and will never sell then Phil.
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08-01-2007, 11:03 PM
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Harb,
I have lots and lots of eyepieces .
Including some of the best from the Pentax range and the Televue Naglers and Panoptics. I use them in a 10"/F5 dob and an 18"/F4.5 dob.
If I could only have 4 eyepieces, cost no issue, it would be the following.
31mm T5 Nagler
17mm Nagler T4
10mm Pentax XW
7mm Pentax XW
In the shorter focal lengths ie. 7mm and 10mm, the Pentax XW's are superior to Naglers. The 30mm Pentax XW is also a very good match to the 31mm Nagler. The Nagler has a larger TFOV, the Pentax has superior contrast and light transmission and goes a little deeper on dim objects. However, at this focal length I believe the aim is to maximise the TFOV. If you want to pop faint fuzzies you should be using a higher powered eyepiece with about a 2mm exit pupil IMO.
CS-John B
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09-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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Thanks John.............exactly what I wanted , a list of what you would consider the best choice............
Thanks heaps for that.....great.
cheers
John
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09-01-2007, 02:50 PM
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Barb and David
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Thanks to the info provided to us by John B and others on the forum some months ago our EP purchases were
27mm Panoptic ( Couldn't afford a Nagler at the time )
17mm Nagler T4
10mm Pentax XW
7mm Pentax XW
They are all great EP's and we will never part with any of them. The four we have when used in our 12" Dob cover every aspect of our observing Lunar, Planets, and DSO'S .
Barb & David
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10-01-2007, 01:11 AM
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Plays well with others!
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Sorry to be late to he party...
I made a set of Nagler only choices but as others have already stated if you want the best you should include some Pentax pieces as well (I've got a few ofboh brands)...I've got the 7 and 10 Pentax XW and they are top shelf...I also have a T6 11 Nagler...while the 10 XW does have an edge on the T6 in many areas I also like the view through the 11mm T6 a lot...the different brands do give a different look...both are fine and quite enjoyable.
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11-01-2008, 07:54 PM
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My next purchase is going to be the 31T5.
I have done quite a bit of reading comparing its performance with the 35 Panoptic, and from what I understand, the 31 Nagler has noticeably better brightness and contrast side by side. I have also thought about the 30 Pentax XW, but with my longest focal length EP, I want the widest FOV, even though the Pentax has better throughput and light contrast still.
I have recently acquired a 9mm Nagler and it is a sheer joy to use when the seeing is steady enough. I don't have any problems with shorter ER, but for those who wear glasses when observing, this might be an issue with the 9, which, like all T6's, is about 12mm ER.
I have heard many people rave about the 20T2, which is not available from Bintel. I understand that from those currently available, the 17T4 has effectively taken over that mantle as the most highly regarded, mid-focal length Nagler EP. Had I not just recently acquired a 13 Ethos, I would have voted for 17T4. But having that area covered now, I voted for a 20T5.
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11-01-2008, 09:32 PM
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Where do you get your Pentax lenses from?
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