My guess would be 50 billion cause you need to work in inflation...so what would probably be 12 billion would grow to fifty in 20 years.
But they probably did not have to worry about inflation back then.
Anyone got a number?
Alex
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Thanks John I have watched it once but will watch it again as I am sortta doing something else and can already see that this requires my undivided attention.
Thanks I really do appreciate you backing up your statement..anyways I will get back to you. In the mean time do you want to put in a quote to build a pyramid...I was going to cost it using bessa cement bricks for a ruff idea
Alex
He certainly speculated that we could have been somehow created by another species...
But I strongly suspect that any qualification he put upon that speculation was probably edited out..the guy who followed is a loon and in any event all I wanted to see was Dawkins saying what you said he said...
Alex
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All this is a part of what you said on another thread.
Alex it is interesting to look at ancient Statues of the Egyptian creator god named "Ptah."
You might not know that at least some ancient statues of Ptah do show him with serpent scales, and with wings wrapped around him, covering his body.
Now I definitely do not believe that the creator god was a winged serpent, but around the whole world winged Serpent creator gods are widely found.
. The winged serpent worship is found in absolutely every continent of the world, Antartica of course being the exception.
I can show you why, but that would require me to give a number of quotes from a certain book.
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Already know all about all that stuff and I don't think I mentioned I have read cover to cover the group of books you are thinking of... if you know about that sort of thing why do you ignore the video that I suggested..it really explains everything but unfortunately indicates myth abounds based on in effect Sun worship.
I find all these stories interesting nevertheless.
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Thank you John, I am reasonably familiar with this concept but one must remember that just like many other ideas that are presented without evidence they all remain speculation.
I think one must be able to recognise when even scientists are speculating.
The ancients speculated with the knowledge they had on hand, which I note was minimal and amounts to nothing more than superstition.
Science if pushed can only give an honest answer..which is..we do not know..how ever it has explained conclusively the evolution of species beyond all doubt supporting their conclusions with hard evidence and frankly I really believe such supported reasoning wins hands down over a collection of myths put together by nameless authors none of whom were in any way informed nor did they do any science to support their claims..as mentioned here earlier..to the effect..extrodinary claims require extrodinary evidence and of course there is none..zip..nothing..And irrespective of holding a warm fuzzy feeling as to how one may wish reality to be, finally, it is the evidence offered in support that gives us our most plausible view of reality. I know what the book means to folk who grasp it in the hope that it holds the answers but unfortunately such folk fail to properly consider the real and readily available evidence which unfortunately for them shows they are not only mistaken but horribly wrong.
Now I have already said I have problems with the big bang theory and my main objection is who came up with the idea and their need to somehow establish a point of creation..the big bang however realises that even with all the scientific minds addressing the matter they are unable to establish a creation point. The big bang deals only with the evolution of the universe and does not deal with its creation..Now if modern day scientists can not find creation I am damn sure that an un named unqualified ancient can not do any better.
Of course some folk think they have the answers but fail to realise they have no evidence to support their belief.
Now for me I really do think that a modern day scientist can get us closer to understanding the evolution of species using real science and multiple observations in support than can someone un named unqualified coming at the problem from a perspective of fundamental Sun worship that seeks to personify the Sun (the original god) with some obscure unestablished person using heresay and guess work...nevertheless I still think about things rather than abdicate rational thought to the babbling of folk who thought illness comes from demons, that slavery is cool or that you can beat your wife so long as you don't use a stick with a diameter larger than your finger...it's ancient superstitious stuff mate and a little investigation will show that to be undeniable.
You seem like a nice chap but your mind is closed to the reality available to you...And perhaps if you say you wish to find truth that you look for it outside your book so as to avoid a non productive exercise in circular reasoning.
To deny evolution is simply wrong as the evidence comes from multiple directions and is conclusive...Now to hold on after being shown real facts is just not going to allow one to reach enlightenment.
Alex
John I looked at the video again and I do not think it is unreasonable to conclude that Dawkins said more, which I presume would be a qualification as to the speculation he engaged in, and it appears that what he said was edited out.
Alex
I only today found out about these...it's a great day when you learn about something major that you had never heard about.
Why people have this desire to build tombs is something I don't understand.
https://youtu.be/QkNCoW7XK6k
Alex
Who would have thought that Japan had the biggest tomb in the world as shown it the video.
Bigger than the pyramids (assuming they are tombs for the purpose of comparison) and even bigger than that Chinese complex where they found the terracotta army.
Alex