Old movies

[xelasnave]

I have occasionally expressed my correct opinion that all fiction should be banned and all movies telling only true stories permitted...so it is/ was curious that I found myself watching old movies ( yes fiction)..crime etc from 1930 thru to say 1950..I particularly get excited if made in the year of my birth and know all these folk are now dead..I am not happy about them being dead but I guess experiencing the realisation produces some feeling I can't explain.

But how good are these movies? So often the quality is superb...and the music..not its style but I imagine the calibre of the musicians...clearly top of their game.

So in the interests of polite conversation does anyone here enjoy old movies and perhaps prepared to share which ones they enjoy.

alex

[AstroViking (Steve)]

I tend not to watch much media (certainly zero television) but can understand what you're saying about old movies.

I feel that the storytelling / writing / acting quality in the old films is far ahead of what's produced today. Most of today's films are dumbed-down tripe that rely far too much on flashy special effects and CGI, rather than telling a compelling story.

V.

[Leo.G (Leo)]

I'm not fond of the sex and violence in modern day films, nor of the woke agenda in many titles. What people do behind their own doors is their own business but don't shove it down my throat as every day life for everyone on the planet.

I like humour and love the old Abbott and Costello movies, I'm also fond of the Terrence Hill/Bud Spencer movies. Throw in the Marx Brothers and it's a perfect trio. OH, Ma and Pa Kettle too but they are hard to find.
Speaking of musicians I saw an old movie on SBS world movies the other day, "Bye, Bye Birdie" with Dick Van Dyke. I was shocked when my son looked it up and told me it was done in 1963 and Dick was 38 at the time. He's now 98 and last time I saw him on TV was around 1 year ago and he still has rubber legs (dancing capabilities). My son also showed me a photo of Dick taken in 23, he looked amazing for his age.

I had a miserable life as a kid, I ran away when I was 11 and never went home again, I was always after anything that could make me laugh because in childhood I had little reason to smile or laugh, ever.
I was also a prolific reader to escape my reality. I could get absorbed into the stories. Sadly migraines and far from great eyesight means I haven't read regularly for many years. It used to be a novel per night growing up.

[leon]

Hi Alex and Steve, have to agree Steve the trash that is on TV of late and has been for many years.

Who in their right mind watches that reality rubbish, one sees the shorts about what is coming up and I have to laugh at the stupidity of intelligent people partaking in such nonsense

I am not a big watcher of movies but have to admit there are some that i have watched a number of times during my life and enjoy.

The older ones are sometimes pretty good too.

Have fun Alex and stay well mate.

Leon

[Leo.G (Leo)]

You don't like the narcissists who appear on reality TV Leon?
What other kind of person would do it?
Though I do laugh when they show what people of such low morals (and self respect) they are but suddenly they gain "celebrity" status.

[glend (Glen)]

The Golden Age of Hollywood did produce some fine entertainment, unfortunately often masking inappropriate treatment of women. I do like the old Bogart movies, and the chain smoking actors knew little of the price they were paying down the track. Many of these movies remind me of my parents world.

[Crater101 (Warren)]

I watch very little TV, free to air or otherwise. I can't stand 99% of what is on these days.
I do however enjoy the occasional old movie. I much prefer a story with characters that have depth and aren't carboard-cutouts of the characters in other movies.
A few that sit on the shelf are (in no particular order)


2001: A Space Odyssey
True Grit (The Original)
The Longest Day
Casablanca
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
The Day of the Jackal (The Original)


I usually prefer to be active and moving around during the day, but sometimes when the rain and wind set in (or the nights are cloudy ) an old movie can suit the mood.

[xelasnave]

Try this
https://youtu.be/ejFbsXzapis?si=C9EqugT9aFv_SjRC

alex

[Crater101 (Warren)]

Hadn't seen that one, cheers!

[xelasnave]

Everyone wore a suit it seems ... I recall travelling to Casino with the horse and sulky and Grandfather in his suit and hat, Grandmother in a beautiful dress with a fine hat...and they were not out of place...and picked up a block of ice when leaving for the ice chest back at the farm.

AND even when I started work I wore a suit, overcoat and one of those hats...everyone who worked in an office wore a suit.

I am somewhat lucky to have experienced various "times" ....I bet there would not be many folk who were around when a horse and cart was normal in a country town.

alex

[Startrek (Martin)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Everyone wore a suit it seems ... I recall travelling to Casino with the horse and sulky and Grandfather in his suit and hat, Grandmother in a beautiful dress with a fine hat...and they were not out of place...and picked up a block of ice when leaving for the ice chest back at the farm.

AND even when I started work I wore a suit, overcoat and one of those hats...everyone who worked in an office wore a suit.

I am somewhat lucky to have experienced various "times" ....I bet there would not be many folk who were around when a horse and cart was normal in a country town.

alex

Believe it or not , my wife grew up in Revesby in the southwestern suburbs of Sydney and as a little girl remembers a chap delivering the milk in their street on a horse and cart ( ice chest type ) This would have been around 1962
The milkman was probably given the choice of an old van to use but he stuck with the horse.
He was only around for a year or two , so says her older sisters and brothers

Martin

[xelasnave]

Our milk came via horse and cart and was dished out into a Billy can...also bread was delivered by horse and cart...

alex

[Hans Tucker (Hans)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

I have occasionally expressed my correct opinion that all fiction should be banned and all movies telling only true stories permitted..
alex

I find that rather disturbing ...

And how do you decern if a True Story has been accurately told and how much variation from the true accounts do you permit.

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by Hans Tucker

I find that rather disturbing ...

And how do you decern if a True Story has been accurately told and how much variation from the true accounts do you permit.

What is disturbing about someone who would have a world where fantacy and make believe are not considered the norm but little more than a fabricated lie?

One could hope that in a world where fantasy and make believe are seen as little more than lies that truth would not be as difficult to determine as you perhaps consider it now to be...

We have no difficulty in seeking truth (or rather specifically fact) in the Lab or the court room and there is good reason for such an approach and yet lies are tollerated if they provide entertainment in our culture...I see that as wrong and it is wrong but like so many things that being familiar are casually tolerated my notion will be considered disturbing and yet I say it is disturbing that the current situation is accepted as entirely normal.

Hope you and yours are well Hans.

alex

[Hans Tucker (Hans)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

What is disturbing about someone who would have a world where fantacy and make believe are not considered the norm but little more than a fabricated lie?

One could hope that in a world where fantasy and make believe are seen as little more than lies that truth would not be as difficult to determine as you perhaps consider it now to be...

We have no difficulty in seeking truth (or rather specifically fact) in the Lab or the court room and there is good reason for such an approach and yet lies are tollerated if they provide entertainment in our culture...I see that as wrong and it is wrong but like so many things that being familiar are casually tolerated my notion will be considered disturbing and yet I say it is disturbing that the current situation is accepted as entirely normal.

Hope you and yours are well Hans.

alex

I am a huge fan of movies and movie scores, so I am rather concerned when people mention banning or censoring. We are living in a western world where minorities are trying to dictate how and what the majority should think and say. I am starting to fear that the V for Vendetta is now becoming reality.

Fiction is not a lie. It is a spawn of imagination and people know this. Without imagination it would be a rather boring world. In part Science Fiction inspires innovation and there are plenty examples of things born in Sci-Fi eventually becoming reality.

The problem is when you have movies that are supposedly based on a true event or person but tend to just be a persons interpretation of an event. For example, U571 whilst entertaining risks distorting history even though it tries to set the facts straight through the end credits .. who stays to watch the end credits?

I relish watching a good Sci-Fi movie like Alien, Aliens, Star Trek, Star Wars, Day the Earth Stood Still and Time Machine or a good war movie .. Saving Private Ryan, Fury, Blackhawk Down .. maybe a good mystery thriller like Da Vinci Code .. Angels and Demons .. there are many movies.

[xelasnave]

Hans are you saying that you know what is best?

What's wrong with censorship?

Minorities do not rule ...they are paid lip service and the media beats their cause up like a big drum giving the impression they are a threat...are they a threat or is the casual approach to journalism the real issue? Sensationalism yet another lie.

I am surprised you can not contemplate the damage caused by the swill offered as entertainment...consider the fast and furious franchise ...would it be unreasonable to assume a few young folk have died in car accidents that have occured because they have mimicked the crazy approach to racing on public roads...and mass shootings etc...think it thru.

alex

[Hans Tucker (Hans)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Hans are you saying that you know what is best?

What's wrong with censorship?

Minorities do not rule ...they are paid lip service and the media beats their cause up like a big drum giving the impression they are a threat...are they a threat or is the casual approach to journalism the real issue? Sensationalism yet another lie.

I am surprised you can not contemplate the damage caused by the swill offered as entertainment...consider the fast and furious franchise ...would it be unreasonable to assume a few young folk have died in car accidents that have occured because they have mimicked the crazy approach to racing on public roads...and mass shootings etc...think it thru.

alex

I don't recall ever saying I know best, I think that is your assumption and accusation.

You started this thread and with the opening line "I have occasionally expressed my correct opinion that all fiction should be banned and all movies telling only true stories permitted..." and further promoting your distain for movies and trying to link movies to mass shootings and tragic car accidents involving young people. The rise of Social Media has more to answer for the behavior of young people than movies.

I am simply defending movies for what they are .. entertainment. I just think you have presented a flawed case against movies.

I like it when an accomplished director can try and translate much loved books to the big screen .. e.g Peter Jackson LOTR's and The Hobbit. Denis Villeneuve Dune. You call it swill I call it mastery.

On the subject of Censorship ... it is just another method of control. It breeds ignorance. People should be exposed to the good, the bad and the ugly. Idiots rewriting the works of Ronald Dahl and Dr Seuss (Theodor Seuss) because they don't like the author or his writings is simply vandalism and these are driven by mindless minorities.

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by Hans Tucker

I don't recall ever saying I know best, I think that is your assumption and accusation.

You started this thread and with the opening line "I have occasionally expressed my correct opinion that all fiction should be banned and all movies telling only true stories permitted..." and further promoting your distain for movies and trying to link movies to mass shootings and tragic car accidents involving young people. The rise of Social Media has more to answer for the behavior of young people than movies.

I am simply defending movies for what they are .. entertainment. I just think you have presented a flawed case against movies.

I like it when an accomplished director can try and translate much loved books to the big screen .. e.g Peter Jackson LOTR's and The Hobbit. Denis Villeneuve Dune. You call it swill I call it mastery.

On the subject of Censorship ... it is just another method of control. It breeds ignorance. People should be exposed to the good, the bad and the ugly. Idiots rewriting the works of Ronald Dahl and Dr Seuss (Theodor Seuss) because they don't like the author or his writings is simply vandalism and these are driven by mindless minorities.

Hans you did not say you know best but I wanted to be clear.

There is plenty of swill out there... just enter a search into YouTube movies for example and it becomes more than obvious.

alex

[RAJAH235]

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[xelasnave]

Hans you seem somewhat burdened by the notion that minories are responsible for the ills of the world given your claim :-

"The rise of Social Media has more to answer for the behavior of young people than movies."

That is an extrodinary claim and I would be surprised if you could offer any support whatsoever and suggest that you are a victim of the similar unsupported claims offered by the media when a journalist finds himself short on copy for his next dead line.

But I am open minded and before I dismiss your claim as having no basis I will extend the opportunity to you to offer some evidence that may give support to your claim.

In any event I think you focus on literary works that indeed may have merit but in talking of minorities they certainly present as a minority when placed with all the movies out there...If you wish to ignore the potential harm that must come from franchises such as Fast and Furious I suggest that you really have not been realistic in your assesment.

You find the prospect of censorship objectional and I would ask that on that basis should we cease to regulate drug use on the basis it interferes with the rights of the individual...clearly where governments have given in to calls to let folk determine their drug intake it has not worked out well...censorship could be of benefit and perhaps my blanket call for "nothing but truth" could be adjusted such that the swill is indeed firmly regulated...I would like to hear your case as to why fast and furious has any place in our culture.

I find in particular movies about witches objectionable and would be interested to hear of any defence you may provide for that entirely objectionable swill...Are you familiar with the franchise "Charmed" with plots based upon three sisters who are witches who spend each episode hunting and killing various demons? Why? Is that not the stuff that could push over the edge someone coping with mental illness?

You must know the swill I talk about makes up the majority of the movie industry and why you find it objectionable that a single voice calls for truth over fantacy and make believe is curious...

Could the world not be a better place where truth is put on a higher level of respect and application than the current situation where truth really seems irrelevant?

alex