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Old 14-04-2021, 12:33 AM
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Galaxy pair NGC 3511 & 3513 in Crater

I took Friday, Mon and Tues off work, giving me a possible 5 nights (without work the next day) over the new Moon weekend, to hopefully get out to the observatory and collect some photons. Well, I was blessed with 3 clear nights, so that's not bad, the seeing was very good for half of one of the nights, above average for a few hours of another but only average and sometimes below, the rest of the time, so as usual, I try to use the periods of better seeing for the Luminance if I can and the periods of worse seeing for the RGB. In the end I used every single sub taken over the three nights though...oh except one, where I bumped the counterweights walking my bulky frame around inside the confines of the dome doh! For a slowly slotherfying, aging and rather bulky individual I'm still surprisingly good at squeezing myself around and crawling under the mount/scope/counterweights inside the 2.3m dome (oh and turning it by hand)....errr?..it would be easier if I lost a few inches from around the waist though ......ooops

This lovely pair of small galaxies, is in the southern constellation of Crater (The Cup) and they are both about 45 Million light years away, with the larger NGC 3511 probably the closer of the two. NGC 3511 is an intermediate spiral and is approx 5.8' X 2' while the smaller NGC 3513 is a barred spiral approx 2.9' X 2.4' in apparent size.

NGC 3511 & 3513 in Crater (This is a close up crop, click on image once to enlarge, then click on it again for a full res view)

The remarkable thing though, at least for me, is the sheer number of faint background galaxies, of all shapes and sizes, all over the full frame image. If your screen is properly contrast/brightness adjusted and you can view in a darkened room, they are bloody everywhere, there would have to be several hundred at least, maybe over 1000 even?! just in this small field and would certainly reach down below Mag 21/22 I recon. Best to view the Full Frame Full Resolution version for this faint galaxy surfing though

Those with a keen eye will notice the bottom 1/3 or so (and elsewhere in the frame) in the Full Frame colour image, it appears a bit brighter but if we stretch the 8.6hrs of Luminance, we see that this is not a gradient but rather some very faint Galactic Cirrus dust. I know it is not a gradient because it is in all Luminance frames, in the same spots, taken from both sides of the meridian, plus it clearly looks patchy and like billowing dust clouds, as galactic cirrus tends to look, very faint though...cool

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Old 14-04-2021, 07:23 AM
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Very nice Mike . A very pretty pair indeed!

3 clear nights huh? Lucky you! I've had 2 with one a write off due to poor seeing (high 2s to 3+ arcsec FWHM). Aah the joys of a 3.1m FL. . Monday night was spectacular though! Other nights dogged by cloud. <sigh>
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Old 14-04-2021, 07:58 AM
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Great picture Mike,
is it possible to find a better picture anywhere of those targets?
You've gone very deep with nearly 16 hours.



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Old 14-04-2021, 08:04 AM
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Couple of bright and colourful interesting pairs there Mike. We'll done!
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Old 14-04-2021, 09:37 AM
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Awesome shot Mike
You can see so much detail in each of the galaxies.
Its fantastic to see that finer background detail of those distant galaxies too.
Lovely stuff
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Old 14-04-2021, 10:27 AM
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Very nice Mike . A very pretty pair indeed!

3 clear nights huh? Lucky you! I've had 2 with one a write off due to poor seeing (high 2s to 3+ arcsec FWHM). Aah the joys of a 3.1m FL. . Monday night was spectacular though! Other nights dogged by cloud. <sigh>
Thanks Marcus, who needs an atmosphere anyway..??!! sheesh!

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Great picture Mike,
is it possible to find a better picture anywhere of those targets?
You've gone very deep with nearly 16 hours.

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Oh I think so Al, how's a 28" at El Sauce in Chile...like I always say, oh to have a scope, any scope, in the Atacama Chile ... Sigh, we do the best we can, with what we got, where we got it

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Couple of bright and colourful interesting pairs there Mike. We'll done!
Cheers Joshua

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Awesome shot Mike
You can see so much detail in each of the galaxies.
Its fantastic to see that finer background detail of those distant galaxies too.
Lovely stuff
Glad you liked it Alex

"...yes, I think we got something there...?"

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Old 14-04-2021, 11:21 AM
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Oh I think so Al, how's a 28" at El Sauce in Chile...like I always say, oh to have a scope, any scope, in the Atacama Chile ... Sigh, we do the best we can, with what we got, where we got it

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Wow:
Imaged in LRGB on our Officina Stellare RiDK 700 and RiDK 500 (RGB) telescopes at El Sauce (Obstech), Chile.
Frames: 116x900"
Integration: 29.0 hours





Still Mike - what you have done is great considering the differences
in equipment and location.


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Old 14-04-2021, 11:33 AM
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Still Mike - what you have done is great considering the differences
in equipment and location.

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Yeah, I recon so too, thanks mate, you are always so encouraging

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Old 14-04-2021, 12:19 PM
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A very interesting pairing, nicely captured. Taking your gear to the max there.

I haven't seen this one before. You are good at finding these not so common objects.

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Old 14-04-2021, 12:38 PM
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You could lift this one up Mike, only 140kg

Nice work by the way...
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Old 14-04-2021, 12:52 PM
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A very interesting pairing, nicely captured. Taking your gear to the max there.

I haven't seen this one before. You are good at finding these not so common objects.

Greg.
Cheers Greg, yeah pushing is good fun, hitting Eta, The Chicken and the Statue of Liberty nebs, over and over again, tends to get a little tedious ...still love seeing good images of'em though

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You could lift this one up Mike, only 140kg

Nice work by the way...
Thanks mate...yeeess...well, there was a time many years ago... all I can do now is occasionally lift someone's spirits...or a beer but yep, one of those scopes aaaand the appropriate mount...and observatory...at the appropriate location...and the approx $300K required ...would indeed be great

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Nice work Mike - Given the scope & conditions, your image compares favourably to the one in Chile, well done
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Old 14-04-2021, 01:30 PM
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Mike,
Great images of some very dim rascals
Top shelf stuff
Way to dim for my gear
Well done !!
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Nice pair of galaxies. Not wrong about the background ones. They are everywhere.
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Well done Mike. The numerous faint fuzzies are easily picked up with these scopes. Those are a nice pair. I'll have to put them on the list too.
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Old 14-04-2021, 04:54 PM
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Nice work Mike - Given the scope & conditions, your image compares favourably to the one in Chile, well done
Yeah, happy enough with the result Andy and as usual, it was lots of fun acquiring it (...not fast asleep, like some people ). I love the way the top galaxy looks like it is cartwheeling down into the larger galaxy, very cool scene

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Mike,
Great images of some very dim rascals
Top shelf stuff
Way to dim for my gear
Well done !!
Martin
Thanks Martin, glad you liked it

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Nice pair of galaxies. Not wrong about the background ones. They are everywhere.
Thanks Galaxy Man ...yeah I know, after dark they spring out of everywhere in the image, quite remarkable really!

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Well done Mike. The numerous faint fuzzies are easily picked up with these scopes. Those are a nice pair. I'll have to put them on the list too.
That to do list of yours Paul, must be very long....

Yeah, our scopes are pretty versatile and capable huh?

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Old 14-04-2021, 05:03 PM
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That to do list of yours Paul, must be very long....

Yeah, our scopes are pretty versatile and capable huh?

Mike
Yep it is pretty long, though I am working through it. However, every time I tick one off I see another object worth imaging. It might be in a point of stasis forever more.

I have one of the AG12's tweaked out but still trying to wrangle the other one. Getting close now though. Similar image scales might be good for when Swan Reach is up and running and people wanting to buy time on one.
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Old 14-04-2021, 08:53 PM
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Great work and very realistic looking in that the background isn't artificially smooth. Every bit of data captured is visible right down to those faint background galaxies.
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Old 14-04-2021, 09:28 PM
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Great work and very realistic looking in that the background isn't artificially smooth. Every bit of data captured is visible right down to those faint background galaxies.
Thanks Scotterotti funny you should say that, fact is, I used no noise reduction what so ever..or any gradient removal either, just a decent number of subs, dark enough skies and accurate flats

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Great shot Mike.
These two galaxies make a lovely pair.
On my list too...

As others have mentioned...love seeing the faint fuzzies in the background.

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