I have upgraded my monitor now I need a physical colour callibrator. What is considered the best? I have heard of a spider calibrator before. I don't know much about their models though.
best thing to do is join a local camera club & borrow theirs -our local club has one avail for free for a week [once per year]
the spyder's do seem easy & accurate
I use a Spyder. Interesting how if you run it with successive iterations the differences you get between each - that dismayed me somewhat (I run my calibrations at night in a fully darkened room, so there should be very little variation).
I paid $149 delivered for my Spyder, so you did well Greg.
Hey just a quick note if you use a colour calibrator and all your Pixinsight settings are at deafult, Pixinsight will set the working profile to any images to the monitor profile.
So when you save it either a) always embed the ICC profile, or b) convert the profile to sRGB or you may suddenly find the image doesn't look right.
I've been using the Spyder system for a few years and I'm pretty happy with it for my monitors and printer as well.
I did find most software that is used for imaging looks for a colour profile and uses what is set by the Spyder or the Munki for that matter.
Windows slide show however never did and screen saver slide show were always heavily over saturated but they seem to have fixed that recently.
Both are good units for their price.
Hey just a quick note if you use a colour calibrator and all your Pixinsight settings are at deafult, Pixinsight will set the working profile to any images to the monitor profile.
So when you save it either a) always embed the ICC profile, or b) convert the profile to sRGB or you may suddenly find the image doesn't look right.
Same goes for all images, in any image processing software (eg Photoshop). If you're displaying on web, best to convert the image to sRGB.
Same goes for all images, in any image processing software (eg Photoshop). If you're displaying on web, best to convert the image to sRGB.
Well most other image processing software does not change the working profile, but rather keeps the working profile at default (sRGB or AdobeRGB) and converts to the monitor profile in realtime for display purposes.
Pixinsight is the first program I've come across that actually changes and saves the monitor profile as the working profile of the file which is quite strange behaviour.
Well most other image processing software does not change the working profile, but rather keeps the working profile at default (sRGB or AdobeRGB) and converts to the monitor profile in realtime for display purposes.
Pixinsight is the first program I've come across that actually changes and saves the monitor profile as the working profile of the file which is quite strange behaviour.
That would be strange behaviour indeed, Chris, but it is not something I've ever experienced in PI. The only time I've seen the default profile attached to an image is when it didn't have one to begin with, e.g. when creating an RGB image from individual red, green and blue channels.
That would be strange behaviour indeed, Chris, but it is not something I've ever experienced in PI. The only time I've seen the default profile attached to an image is when it didn't have one to begin with, e.g. when creating an RGB image from individual red, green and blue channels.
Do you also use a calibrator? It would be interesting what your PI Colour Management settings look like. This is something I have never touched or changed yet on both of my PCs the settings appear as per the attached screenshot showing that for files generated by PI it applies the monitor working profile. It would be interesting to know if this is something I have done or if it is actually PI's default settings. (I never changed any settings in here).
If you don't calibrate your monitor then the monitor profile is sRGB so it stands to reason that this wouldn't be noticed in normal circumstances.
Do you also use a calibrator? It would be interesting what your PI Colour Management settings look like. This is something I have never touched or changed yet on both of my PCs the settings appear as per the attached screenshot showing that for files generated by PI it applies the monitor working profile. It would be interesting to know if this is something I have done or if it is actually PI's default settings. (I never changed any settings in here).
If you don't calibrate your monitor then the monitor profile is sRGB so it stands to reason that this wouldn't be noticed in normal circumstances.
G'day Chris,
Yes, I calibrate and by default the default profile in PI is that of my monitor, or at least it would be if I didn't set it to ProPhoto RGB (once set PI remembers the new preference.)
When you create a new RGB image it doesn't have a profile so I guess attaching one that corresponds exactly to what your monitor can represent makes a degree of sense. I'm sure that if you ask on the PI forum that Juan will have a good argument for why it is that way
Anyway, it is easy to change the colour management configuration to whatever suits you and this appears to be a time honoured tradition. The first thing most books on colour management tell you is that you need to change half the colour settings in Photoshop.
Speaking of colour calibration... has anybody seen the latest Eizo 4K monitor with a calibrator built in? Lovely looking piece of kit but not much change out of $7K
Not sure what the beef is, but we are talking about colour calibration and settings here. If you've interpreted that as shilling PI, that says more about you than us.
Sorry Greg. FWIW I've had the Spyder 2 and 3. Very happy.
