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  #821  
Old 12-07-2017, 06:59 AM
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Just to share this interesting setup on cam84 with external silica bottles
I like this
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/4...camera/page-46
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Old 24-07-2017, 04:55 PM
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Ok had some issues with horizontal random noise in images. Turns out it was data transfer errors (read noise). Luka explained this (many thanks) and indeed had a "read time" delay in their ASCOM drivers that delayed the row readout each row. Increasing this fixed the issue.

[s]Having issue getting what looks to be correct debayer from APT fit files in DSS. Kinda red looks green...I may be doing it wrong. Wanted to ask...is the matrix RGGB or GRGB? What camera should I use to debayer in DSS....Nikon D70?[/s]

Damn...how does bulletin board code work...grrr...

Anyway I figured it out...wrong debayer used Crisis over..use DSS mono camera selected generic camera GRBG...

edit:
You'll need the appropriate cam86 ASCOM driver (mine is 0.7.2L) to do this delay as well as newer firmware (mine at v8L). Many thanks Luka.
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:29 AM
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Interesting note from Faddy on the Ukrainian forums:
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...one curious fact about the 453m sensor, measurements showed the depth of the well is of the order of 40-41t .. and not 35t. As we thought earlier.

If true that would be good news.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:29 PM
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hi

we are a few in France to start new boards (and i want a second one, cleaner...)
I'm about to order new pcb, and i'm thinking to use yours.
Can you tell me which specific parts you've improved ?
Where can i find the last "production" one ? (and now i'm here : have you a BOM ?)

thank you
Gilles.

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Old 05-08-2017, 10:56 PM
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Hi Gilles,

The latest version is in folder "Cam86 ver 2, 18 Dec final corrections". There is also a version by Filip called Cam86_final_filip.
Take a pick...

You will need to wait for Brendan to confirm all the changes. From memory:
- the FET controlling the TEC has been upgraded as it was way too weak in the original version.
- added 3 capacitors to stabilise the input of DD6, however, this was a mistake and they are too far from DD6. They will need to be moved close to DD6, actually they should be directly next to DD6.
- improved the power connector. The original was rated only 2A while more current can be used by the camera, depending on the TEC. We doubled-up the wires to double the maximum current as we could not find a connector with larger rating but with a small size.

Since building the boards, there were few more things I wish we had changed:
- the holes for the TEC wiring are too small
- need to look into and possibly add +ve and GND holes for connecting the sensors. If there is enough place then probably even add the connectors for the sensors.
- possibly a larger hole for the cold finger

I don't think we changed the 3.3V regulator, we decided to go with 9V for the camera power instead. I don't think that the original design of going 12V to 3.3V is a good idea as there will always be lots of heat generation but using DC-DC converters would probably cause noise.
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:10 AM
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Thank you Luka
I will check all that
I would really like to have :
- connectors for tec & sensors
- bigger hole for cold finger
Don't know how to do that with Eagle, but i'll give a try.
Gilles
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:04 AM
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Unfortunately I can't be of much assistance, never used Eagle myself. Brendan did all the design files.

I forgot the most important change, we wanted to put Brendan's avatar as logo on the board
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:57 AM
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Gilles, I have 8 or 9 spare PCB-s (my design). If you want them, I can send it to you for free (just pay for shipping cost).
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:18 PM
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Hi Gents...back from C6/7 spinal fusion surgery, a few days ago.

I cannot do a lot atm "mucho sore"...but I can do some. I hope to much better in a few weeks.

If you want some PCB changes...then list them and I'll do them. Luka I will try incorporate changes/deficiencies we noted in my original board. I do have a list but we need to consolidate them.

Or if you want I can send you the Eagle PCB files and you can make the changes. As long as you allow us to copy these for our use.

Brendan

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Old 06-08-2017, 07:22 PM
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Gilles, I have 8 or 9 spare PCB-s (my design). If you want them, I can send it to you for free (just pay for shipping cost).
Thank you Filip
As long as we are a few in France, i think it's better to order from here...
Keep yours for friends next to you
Thanks again
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:30 PM
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Hi Gents...back from C6/7 spinal fusion surgery, a few days ago.

I cannot do a lot atm "mucho sore"...but I can do some. I hope to much better in a few weeks.

If you want some PCB changes...then list them and I'll do them. Luka I will try incorporate changes/deficiencies we noted in my original board. I do have a list but we need to consolidate them.

Or if you want I can send you the Eagle PCB files and you can make the changes. As long as you allow us to copy these for our use.

Brendan
Ouch, take care !
Be carefull : if you see more stars at night, it might come from surgery...

About pcb mod : this is very kind also, i don't know if this is difficult or not...
For me the number one is a bigger hole, adjusted to copper sensor back.
Connectors for everything : DS18B20 / DHT22 / TEC / USB / Power
Luka's suggestion are also very good points...
How can i help ?
(this is a september play, i have time, take care of you)

Gilles.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:28 PM
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ASCOM driver: crash under Kstars on Windows

Hi,

I was trying to use Kstars and EKOS with Cam86 under windows, but when configuring the latest ASCOM drive (0.7.2L) under wINDI I got an error message (see below). Also the original v0.1 driver gives the same error message. I have tried both the 32-bit and the 64-bit wINDI versions, but still no joy.
Has anybody played around with Kstrs and EKOS under windows? It is really cool, although lacking an offline plate solver for now...

Nico

Code:
See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.BadImageFormatException: Creating an instance of the COM component with CLSID {677DF06A-D784-4A3B-9028-D597E58131A4} from the IClassFactory failed due to the following error: 8007000b An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B).
   at System.RuntimeTypeHandle.CreateInstance(RuntimeType type, Boolean publicOnly, Boolean noCheck, Boolean& canBeCached, RuntimeMethodHandleInternal& ctor, Boolean& bNeedSecurityCheck)
   at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceSlow(Boolean publicOnly, Boolean skipCheckThis, Boolean fillCache, StackCrawlMark& stackMark)
   at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, Boolean nonPublic)
   at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type)
   at ASCOM.DriverAccess.MemberFactory..ctor(String progId, TraceLogger ascomDriverTraceLogger) in c:\ASCOM Build\Export\ASCOM.DriverAccess\MemberFactory.cs:line 55
   at ASCOM.DriverAccess.AscomDriver..ctor(String deviceProgId) in c:\ASCOM Build\Export\ASCOM.DriverAccess\AscomDriver.cs:line 49
   at ASCOM.DriverAccess.Camera..ctor(String cameraId) in c:\ASCOM Build\Export\ASCOM.DriverAccess\Camera.cs:line 33
   at INDI.TcpServer.InstantiateDriver(String driverID)
   at INDI.ControlPanel.setupClick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework64/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
INDI Server
    Assembly Version: 2.2.6.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.6.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/INDI/INDI%20Server.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
INDI
    Assembly Version: 2.2.6.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.6.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/INDI/INDI.DLL
----------------------------------------
ASCOM.Utilities
    Assembly Version: 6.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 6.3.0.2831
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/ASCOM.Utilities/6.0.0.0__565de7938946fba7/ASCOM.Utilities.dll
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
    Assembly Version: 10.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 14.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/v4.0_10.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Core
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.6.1099.0 built by: NETFXREL4STAGE
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
ASCOM.DriverAccess
    Assembly Version: 6.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 6.3.0.2831
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/ASCOM.DriverAccess/6.0.0.0__565de7938946fba7/ASCOM.DriverAccess.dll
----------------------------------------
ASCOM.DeviceInterfaces
    Assembly Version: 6.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 6.3.0.2831
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/ASCOM.DeviceInterfaces/6.0.0.0__565de7938946fba7/ASCOM.DeviceInterfaces.dll
----------------------------------------
ASCOM.Exceptions
    Assembly Version: 6.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 6.3.0.2831
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/ASCOM.Exceptions/6.0.0.0__565de7938946fba7/ASCOM.Exceptions.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.
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