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Old 12-04-2018, 03:11 PM
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Sombrero

To our amazement, we've not looked at the Sombrero since 2012.

The sky here is expected to be cloudy throughout the rest of new moon, and perhaps even raining (very needed for the pasture) so we'll show you what we have so far. Five hours 30 mins of Luminance, in 15 minute subs, so as not to burn out the core.

Seeing was very good for us, so even in that short period of time, the number of distant background galaxies in the full uncropped image is very gratifying.

A first point of interest is that the central core is really a pin-point.

The second is that the halo appears larger than is usually shown. If we increase the contrast, we can make the halo look smaller, because the faint outer regions go to black, but according to a NASA JPL Spitzer article, the halo really is pretty big: it appears that the Sombero is a spiral galaxy that has formed inside a large elliptical, not swallowed, but formed in situ as a result of the elliptical gulping down fresh intergalactic gas and dust.

We've read elsewhere that galaxies don't really have an outer edge, but just become thinner and thinner forever. Hence the apparent size must depend on processing choices, particularly the amount of contrast used.

We certainly hope to come back to this beastie next new moon.

Very best,
Mike and Trish
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:15 PM
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Just hangin' there in space. Enjoying the view M&T.
You guys must have so many clear nights... the images keep coming. Do you automate it or watch every sub come in?

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Old 12-04-2018, 03:23 PM
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Wow spectacular ground based image there!
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:33 PM
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Nice. The full uncropped view does make it look like a flying saucing hanging in space. I see on the close up view that the centre dust lane has a stepped feature on the left of the image which I have not noticed before. Just shows that you cannot tire of looking at these objects. Always something new to be seen.
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:02 PM
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Awesome guys.....totally love the Sombrero
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:02 PM
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:40 PM
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Hi Josh, Scott, Louie, Rodney, Lewis,

Thanks for the kind comments.

Yes, the data collection is pretty automated. We go up to the observatory (350 meters from the house, and 30 meters up, seriously cross-country), fuel up the generator, knock off the bigger mudwasp nests, take off the dust covers, and write a script for the evening. Focusing, filter changes, even multiple objects are all scripted. Then we try to find the Polaris ATV in the dark, drive down the hill, and watch a movie. In the morning we expect to find the scope parked, the dome roof closed, the generator off, and lots of photos. Sometimes expectations even come true.

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Old 12-04-2018, 04:43 PM
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That's one fancy Sombrero.
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Old 12-04-2018, 05:44 PM
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that's a ripper!
I'm holding breath until you finish it now - don't be toooo long
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:12 PM
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A great start, M&T. Hope you get the opportunity to collect the rest of the data. Should be a cracker of an image.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:38 PM
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Looks great M&T. The sombrero was going to be my next target.

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Old 12-04-2018, 06:47 PM
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Hi Mike and Trish,
that 20" Planewave is a beast -
I really enjoy seeing your pictures.
I can't wait to see if you can get some colour data too.

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Old 12-04-2018, 07:27 PM
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Yes, the data collection is pretty automated. We go up to the observatory (350 meters from the house, and 30 meters up, seriously cross-country), fuel up the generator, knock off the bigger mudwasp nests, take off the dust covers, and write a script for the evening. Focusing, filter changes, even multiple objects are all scripted. Then we try to find the Polaris ATV in the dark, drive down the hill, and watch a movie. In the morning we expect to find the scope parked, the dome roof closed, the generator off, and lots of photos. Sometimes expectations even come true.

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MnT
Thnks for that. Great stuff
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:41 PM
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Mike and Trish. My wife and I find this image amazing and so contemplative. The detail of the galaxy is incredible considering it's 28 million light years away for your back yard!
We also enjoyed slow scrolling around the full image spotting the many faint galaxies.
Thank you.
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Old 13-04-2018, 08:34 AM
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Peter, Andy, Rick, Steve, Allan, Josh, Jim,

Thanks for the very positive encouragement. We look forward to both going deeper and adding colour.

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MnT
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Old 13-04-2018, 02:35 PM
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Another great shot. Bring on the color.
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Old 13-04-2018, 04:35 PM
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Nice work guys, the enormous spherical halo is looking very glowy too

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Old 13-04-2018, 05:43 PM
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A fabulous image. Its an intriguing galaxy and somewhat unique.

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Old 13-04-2018, 09:05 PM
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Lots of detail and loving the background galaxies M&T.
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Old 13-04-2018, 11:10 PM
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Beautiful image, plenty of background fuzzies too.
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