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Old 29-10-2019, 11:03 AM
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A job at Siding Spring

Hi Guys

Heres an Astronomy related full time job open now at Siding Spring.
It's as an Observatory Operator for itelescope. Involves support, maintenance and installation etc of scopes.
The money is $70-$90k and you dont have to actually live up at Siding Spring.

https://www.seek.com.au/job/40220751...&type=standout
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Old 31-10-2019, 11:45 PM
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Hi Fred,

It would be a brave person who signed up for that. Unfortunately the record of redundancies at the AAT facility over the past 10 years due to funding cutbacks and ownership control changes is pretty appalling. When you sign on for a job at the AAT these days you don't worry about whether you will make long service leave. Historically it was very stable, but not in more recent years as technology changes and funding allocations change. I have 3 friends who have been shafted from AAT in the past few years. One of them is Rob McNaught who has discovered more comets and near Earth Asteroids than anyone in the history of the human race. His operation (Uppsala / Schmidt Telescope) was closed down about 3 years ago due to lack of funding from Government / ANU. All it needed to continue running was $100K per year.

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That is so disappointing John.
Funding priorities - who decides this stuff!
Needs a good shaking!
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:32 PM
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It would be a brave person who signed up for that. Unfortunately the record of redundancies at the AAT facility over the past 10 years due to funding cutbacks and ownership control changes is pretty appalling.
Hi John,

However, this particular job offer is for the private for-profit
iTelescope company rather than ANU.

iTelescope are the people who operate the rectangular observatory with
multiple hosted telescopes on piers primarily for schools, colleges and
amateurs.

For example, colleges in the U.S. can perform imaging in classes during
their daytime.

See http://hosting.itelescope.net/

An organisation called Astronomy Australia Ltd is now the peak body
established to coordinate Australia's astronomical activities both here and
overseas. Essentially a consortium of the universities and I would believe
CSIRO.

See http://www.astronomyaustralia.org.au/

For decades the AAT had been operated by the AAO, whose headquarters
were at Marsfield in Sydney on the same campus with CSIRO,
but distinctly separate from it.

The AAO not only operated the AAT, but designed and built at times
what was the the most sophisticated observing instrumentation in the world,
such as the robotic spectrographic fibre positioners both for the AAT and
for the big telescopes in Chile and Hawaii.

What was the AAO was then essentially dismantled by the current
government.

As you mentioned, many talented people lost their jobs.

However Rob MacNaught wasn't working for the AAO but his
funding was coming primarily from the United States via I believe
ANU.

Most of the other scopes on the mountain including the Skymapper were
owned and operated by ANU.

The AAT these days is operated using funding from a consortium of
thirteen Australian universities (“the AAT Consortium”), and these
operations are governed by the AAT Council. ANU is the operator for
the consortium.

What was the crack AAO instrumentation team are now part of
Macquarie University .

The moniker AAO has morphed from the original Anglo Australian
Observatory, to Australian Astronomical Observatory once the UK
pulled out and now to Australian Astronomical Optics.

This team is the jewel in the crown for Australia to remain at the
forefront of instrumentation for optical telescopes.

These people are the key reason why ESO have given time to
Australian astronomers in Chile on the big telescopes at a bargain
basement price because in return the team designs and is
actively building some of the complex robotic instrumentation used
on those telescopes.

See https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th.../AAO-Macquarie

New and past instruments :-
https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th...e/our-projects

You were sitting next to Lew recently. Not sure if you had the opportunity
to chat to him about the work they are doing there :-
https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th...rie/our-people
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:41 PM
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Hi John,

However, this particular job offer is for the private for-profit
iTelescope company rather than ANU.

iTelescope are the people who operate the rectangular observatory with
multiple hosted telescopes on piers primarily for schools, colleges and
amateurs.

For example, colleges in the U.S. can perform imaging in classes during
their daytime.

See http://hosting.itelescope.net/

An organisation called Astronomy Australia Ltd is now the peak body
established to coordinate Australia's astronomical activities both here and
overseas. Essentially a consortium of the universities and I would believe
CSIRO.

See http://www.astronomyaustralia.org.au/

For decades the AAT had been operated by the AAO, whose headquarters
were at Marsfield in Sydney on the same campus with CSIRO,
but distinctly separate from it.

The AAO not only operated the AAT, but designed and built at times
what was the the most sophisticated observing instrumentation in the world,
such as the robotic spectrographic fibre positioners both for the AAT and
for the big telescopes in Chile and Hawaii.

What was the AAO was then essentially dismantled by the current
government.

As you mentioned, many talented people lost their jobs.

However Rob MacNaught wasn't working for the AAO but his
funding was coming primarily from the United States via I believe
ANU.

Most of the other scopes on the mountain including the Skymapper were
owned and operated by ANU.

The AAT these days is operated using funding from a consortium of
thirteen Australian universities (“the AAT Consortium”), and these
operations are governed by the AAT Council. ANU is the operator for
the consortium.

What was the crack AAO instrumentation team are now part of
Macquarie University .

The moniker AAO has morphed from the original Anglo Australian
Observatory, to Australian Astronomical Observatory once the UK
pulled out and now to Australian Astronomical Optics.

This team is the jewel in the crown for Australia to remain at the
forefront of instrumentation for optical telescopes.

These people are the key reason why ESO have given time to
Australian astronomers in Chile on the big telescopes at a bargain
basement price because in return the team designs and is
actively building some of the complex robotic instrumentation used
on those telescopes.

See https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th.../AAO-Macquarie

New and past instruments :-
https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th...e/our-projects

You were sitting next to Lew recently. Not sure if you had the opportunity
to chat to him about the work they are doing there :-
https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-th...rie/our-people
Hi Gary,

I actually spoke to Lew's wife at length. She said his team had 3 years guaranteed work forward with no guarantees or commitment after that.

It's just not a set of hands I would consider leaving my long term future in. Particularly if I was < 40.

In addition to that they want someone with an engineering degree or IT Technology Degree, work nights, probably very long hours in the winter and pay them $70K to $90K per year? As you would well know, most good people with engineering degrees or IT degrees, pay more than that in Tax each year!

Cheers
John B

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