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Old 11-06-2018, 09:22 PM
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Itty-bitty galaxies near M83

Some very nice data from Martin Pugh's CDK17. These are the tiny little galaxies on the edge of M83: PGC 48132, the "big" one and PGC 724525, the smaller one. I'm still working on M83 itself. The data deserves more than a quickie process

Mike Sidonio also featured these little critters back in 2015:

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike20...29247/original

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Old 11-06-2018, 09:30 PM
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Wow,, just wow
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:34 PM
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Love those 2 little galaxies. And so nice to see some other little tackers there!
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:46 AM
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Love those 2 little galaxies. And so nice to see some other little tackers there!
Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, some really tiny ones as well, though I suppose they might actually be very large
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Very nice. You can even see the star forming regions in the big one spiral arm.
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:31 AM
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Very nice. You can even see the star forming regions in the big one spiral arm.
Ta, Marc. I thought the level of detail was pretty cool!
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:35 AM
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Ta, Marc. I thought the level of detail was pretty cool!
It is. You've got a shot of the whole galaxy field somewhere?
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:01 AM
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It is. You've got a shot of the whole galaxy field somewhere?
Still working on it... the data deserves careful processing and probably many revisions before I'm happy with it
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:59 AM
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Nice to see the supporting cast of M83 getting a solo gig
They must be Jedi galaxies, you know - distant galaxies far, far away....
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:14 PM
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Wow - these galaxies are usually only just glimpsed alongside M83. Amazing to have detail in them like this!
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:30 PM
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Neat Rick

Interesting to see how they looking in a substantially larger scope...
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:09 PM
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Shaping up well. The stellar footprints look to be half the size of the image you linked to. Nice.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:25 PM
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Yes very cool little buggers huh Rick?..can't wait for your final masterpiece ...glad to see my lill'oll short focal length 12" f3.8 and without a PMEII, AOL, Protrack etc or even PEC can do so well compared to Martins amazing kitted up 17" rig ...would happily trade though

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Yes, some really tiny ones as well, though I suppose they might actually be very large
I wanted to find out how big the larger of the 2 small galaxies is compared to our own Milky Way.
I did some quick scaling by printing the picture of M83 & the little galaxies on one page.

I measured 110mm wide for M83 & 10mm wide for the largest of the 2 small galaxies.
Those galaxies are about 600 million light years away.
M83 is 15 million light years away,
therefore it appears 600/15 = 40 times apparently smaller.
Given that M83 is half the size of our Milky Way
lets double it's size to 220mm and also multiply 40 x 10 mm = 400mm.
If we divide 400mm/ 220 mm = 2.
Therefore the larger of the 2 tiny galaxies is twice the size of our Milky Way galaxy
& therefore about the same size as Andromeda.
It's a large galaxy indeed.

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Nice to see the supporting cast of M83 getting a solo gig
They must be Jedi galaxies, you know - distant galaxies far, far away....
Thanks, Andy

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Wow - these galaxies are usually only just glimpsed alongside M83. Amazing to have detail in them like this!
Ta, Pete.

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Neat Rick

Interesting to see how they looking in a substantially larger scope...
Need to go at least twice as big next time, Dunk

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Shaping up well. The stellar footprints look to be half the size of the image you linked to. Nice.
Thanks, Peter. The image is drizzled to twice the native image scale.

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Yes very cool little buggers huh Rick?..can't wait for your final masterpiece ...glad to see my lill'oll short focal length 12" f3.8 and without a PMEII, AOL, Protrack etc or even PEC can do so well compared to Martins amazing kitted up 17" rig ...would happily trade though
Thanks, Mike. The 12" acquitted itself well and is definitely more portable!

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I wanted to find out how big the larger of the 2 small galaxies is compared to our own Milky Way.
I did some quick scaling by printing the picture of M83 & the little galaxies on one page.

I measured 110mm wide for M83 & 10mm wide for the largest of the 2 small galaxies.
Those galaxies are about 600 million light years away.
M83 is 15 million light years away,
therefore it appears 600/15 = 40 times apparently smaller.
Given that M83 is half the size of our Milky Way
lets double it's size to 220mm and also multiply 40 x 10 mm = 400mm.
If we divide 400mm/ 220 mm = 2.
Therefore the larger of the 2 tiny galaxies is twice the size of our Milky Way galaxy
& therefore about the same size as Andromeda.
It's a large galaxy indeed.

cheers
Allan
Thanks, Allan. My back of the envelope calculation puts the major axis of PGC 48132 at 229,000 light-years vs a diameter of 100,000 ly for the Milky Way so essentially the same result.
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:55 PM
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Nice Rick.
More detail than the DSS image on Aladin.
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Nice Rick.
More detail than the DSS image on Aladin.
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That's good to know, Ron, though they currently beat me on sky coverage. I hope to catch up one day
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That's good to know, Ron, though they currently beat me on sky coverage. I hope to catch up one day
With the number of scopes you have your fingers into around the globe...I recon you might just catch'em Rick
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:54 PM
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With the number of scopes you have your fingers into around the globe...I recon you might just catch'em Rick
Fingers crossed, Mike
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Very very nice Rick. Great colour balance and outstanding processing, as we can witness in each of your astro images. Mike's version is also outstanding, but since you have provided a link and if I was forced to compare, yours is a notch or two higher...

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