Your honest opinions please.

[janoskiss (Steve H)]

Are you nuts, David? Would you really want these people anywhere near your mirror again?

All that aluminium takes quite a lot of scrubbing to clean up properly. Even if the cleaning is covered by warranty, you might still end up having to pay for all the steel wool they'd need!

[ving (David)]

I think not steve, I'd want it warranty covered an I'd want it done properly. and if they wreck it... wel its thier problem!
I believe the method used these days is not steel wool but sand blasting for cleaning anyhow

[TidaLpHasE]

Steel wool and sandblasting the mirror????

I thought you only did that with ep's and new camera lenses

I am waiting for a reply, so not to sure what will be the outcome, i'm definately over these dramas with this scope, can't wait to get some good viewing in even if it's with the big binno's.

Thanks again for all your opinions.

[janoskiss (Steve H)]

Let us know what sort of a reply you get but yes, go easy on the steel wool and the sandblasting.

[RAJAH235]

Trevor. Sorry for coming in late, but on enlarging the left pic/view, I can see what appears to be a 'SCRATCH' in the lower left! (your choice what to do here!). The rest appears to be a lot of dust etc. etc....
The fingermarks & smearing need to be removed asap.
Contrary to Steve,(sorry Steve), I would remove the mirror, clean with lots of 'cellulose free' cotton buds & dishwashing liquid in fairly warm water. Have a squeeze bottle handy & a good supply of warm distilled water. I use a 'puffer brush' to aid with moving/removing the water droplets.
You may have to do this 2 or 3 times.
Do not apply any great pressure to the cotton buds tho. & only use once. Do not rotate them, otherwise the oil off your hands will be deposited on the mirror & you'll have to do it all again.
HTH. L.
ps. Check the 'Scratch'. If it is one, then send it back with pics. L.

[TidaLpHasE]

Yes it is a scratch, i thought the smudges and fingerprints would be worse, and i would seem fussy to mention it.

I will just send it back for a refund, it's a shame that it has come to this, as i am not happy at all with the quality, and being my first ever scope that feeling of joy is lost on this deal.

I would also like to appologise to Mike if this and the other thread has created any negative feedback to this site.

[iceman (Mike)]

No need to apologise to me Trev, you've done nothing wrong.

It's a shame that you haven't been able to get a clean mirror, even 2nd time around. After the dramas of the first shipment, I would've expected them to at least look at the second mirror before sending it out.

Get your money back and take it elsewhere. You will be satisfied with the views through a 12" GSO dob, once you get a non-scratched one in your possession!

Are you coming to the starcamp?

[TidaLpHasE]

I will try to make it to Snake Valley, with or without a scope. I hope i will have one by then so i can get some hands on tips and opinions from all the pro's

[square_peg114GT]

Originally Posted by TidaLpHasE

but the wipe marks and definately the fingerprints is what i am concerned about.

I'd be concerned, too! A new mirror shouldn't have those things and there's a good chance that the wipemarks have damaged the coatings. I'd take it back. Let the retailer clean it. If the marks ALL go away then accept the mirror. My guess is that the wipe marks will leave minute, but visible scratches on the surface.

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Trevor, try ringing the other Sydney shop and telling them what has happened (even the replacement is a mess) and see how they are prepared to help you (if you can get a refund). Let them know the history of the drama is in here to read if they want to have a look. They may give you a really good deal to get you away from Andrews.

Also, I hope you do make it up to the Camp. If you don't have a scope by then there will be plenty there to use.

[TidaLpHasE]

Thanks guys, the scope is being returned for a full refund, so i will be shopping around for another one soon.

[asimov (John)]

That's good Tidal...I'm relieved to hear it. Good luck with the NEXT one!

[TidaLpHasE]

Well i have my full refund and back in the market for a new scope.
I am getting an 80ED on an EQ6

Lee will be taking my mirror with him to GS in Taiwan and looking for the cause of the quality issue.

This should avoid any mirrors in the future looking like this, and can only be a good thing for all that purchase these scopes

[davidpretorius]

well done mate, in time for star camp????

[Starkler (Geoff)]

Im glad its all worked out in the end.