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Old 11-02-2014, 02:42 PM
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I think the upshot of this entire discussion is that the terms "fast" and "slow" are misleading
Also, in vacuum all scopes fall at the same speed

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Old 11-02-2014, 09:14 PM
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Hi malcolm, so my scope being an F6 (8" dob) would produce a comparable image to a slower scope of equal aperture? (Say Nexstar 8SE?)
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:17 PM
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At the same magnification, yes

But there may be other mechanical or optical factors involved that might introduce differences...
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:36 PM
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Hi malcolm, so my scope being an F6 (8" dob) would produce a comparable image to a slower scope of equal aperture? (Say Nexstar 8SE?)
The point about brightness was that the assertion was made that " a scope at f5 gathers light faster so it produces a brighter image". I suggest that is incorrect for visual use for the simple reason that your retina doesn't act like a sensor or a film in that the time you look at something doesn't make it brighter so the "speed" of a scope is irrelevant.

That is not to say that the focal ratio is not an important consideration in selecting a scope and there are factors that need to be considered and John (ausastronomer) has done quite a succinct summary in his post.

But what you are saying is essentially correct. At the same magnification, the images should be comparable. Of course a dob and an 8SE are different in a couple of ways. The 8SE is an SCT so it has a corrector plate at the front which will slightly reduce the light throughput and also has a larger secondary obstruction so that will also slightly reduce the light throughput and contrast.

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Old 11-02-2014, 09:41 PM
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With modern coatings and mirrors, the difference between your average 8" Dob and SCT will be practically indiscernible.

The different levels of coma is a lot easier to see...

The main difference is the maximum FOV, but even that is not so straightforward if you consider maximum exit pupil, in which case you'd probably shy away from the longer focal length eyepieces with the faster scope.
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