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Old 13-12-2011, 10:04 PM
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I liked the original best. Nice dynamics rather than the Las Vegas look

Just a small "correction" the well depth is almost certainly very shallow due the 6 micron pixels....they simply can't hold many -e.

The blooming protection is however very impressive!
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Old 13-12-2011, 10:31 PM
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You are correct in a manner of speaking Peter - the full well depth of the QHY10 is 45000 electrons while I was comparing this to my other camera a QSI583wsg which only has a full well depth of 25500 electrons.
A noticeable difference for me even on first usage.
I liked the first impression too as I felt it was more "Batman begins" rather than the usual BrisVegas technicolour. At the moment I'm processing it again (you listening Mike?) to bring out more detail and structure but maintaining the look of the original.
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Old 13-12-2011, 10:42 PM
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Batman begins Heh he Expecting to see more dark and brooding sequels too then
I love the dust you've brought out Allan. Last night sure was a tease with Orion right there all night, but the moon right next door.
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Old 14-12-2011, 06:36 AM
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Hi Alan, terrific image, so much detail, so little processing, very nice. What is the 5" scope you are using for the image? I know you said it was full frame, is this with or without reducer/flattener?
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Old 14-12-2011, 07:12 AM
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Batman begins Heh he Expecting to see more dark and brooding sequels too then
I love the dust you've brought out Allan. Last night sure was a tease with Orion right there all night, but the moon right next door.
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The moon made things a little difficult but the shielding of the observatory really helps with this sort of situation. There is more in the image that I can Sidonio it to death.
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Hi Alan, terrific image, so much detail, so little processing, very nice. What is the 5" scope you are using for the image? I know you said it was full frame, is this with or without reducer/flattener?
I'm currently working on a very minimalist approach to this image. The 5" is one of two unbranded evaluation scopes that Steve Massey imported several years ago that eventually became the Meade 127mm apo. Hand figured with Japanese glass. There is no reducer/flattener in the train as it doesn't need one.
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Old 14-12-2011, 07:32 AM
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Very nice view Allan, to not burn out the core with 5 minute exposures is amazing. One day I may go down this path with a OSC CCD. All the best.
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Old 14-12-2011, 08:03 AM
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I'm 5 Km from BrisVegas CBD with quite a bit of LP but my neighbours are really good and switch off their lights if they see the dome open. Wish Brisbane would do the same!!! But I don't use any LP filter and find they are a waste of money (sorry if I offend filter officianados) and just shoot even if the moon is up as there are so few opportunities to image lately.
Allan,

I wish I had neighbours like yours - I think mine do the opposite when they see me out with the scope!! I'm 12km to the south of Brisbane and I'd be lost without my Baader UHC-S filter. Processing has been made a lot easier since I've got it back in my imaging train - it really tames the LP in my neck of the woods.

I can't wait to see your repro of M42,

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Old 14-12-2011, 08:34 AM
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Iam amazed at the detail you have got in there AL,not burning out the core what a good combo with the 127 and Qhy10 .nice scopes these iam glad i got mine theres a thought maybe a qhy10 on the christmas list
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Old 14-12-2011, 11:21 AM
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Very nice view Allan, to not burn out the core with 5 minute exposures is amazing. One day I may go down this path with a OSC CCD. All the best.
Lester, thanks for the comments. Im enjoying the QHY10 but will have to test its sensitivity against a faint object
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Allan,

I wish I had neighbours like yours - I think mine do the opposite when they see me out with the scope!! I'm 12km to the south of Brisbane and I'd be lost without my Baader UHC-S filter. Processing has been made a lot easier since I've got it back in my imaging train - it really tames the LP in my neck of the woods.

I can't wait to see your repro of M42,

Cheers,
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Mario, when I first set up my observatory I invited the parents and their children around. Now the children tell their parents to switch off their outside lights. Lucky me!!
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Iam amazed at the detail you have got in there AL,not burning out the core what a good combo with the 127 and Qhy10 .nice scopes these iam glad i got mine theres a thought maybe a qhy10 on the christmas list
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Go for it Alan, maybe you could prise that QHY10 out of Houghy's miserable hands that he hasn't used to date.
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Old 14-12-2011, 01:49 PM
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Nice outcome there, the QHY camera range are good value for money IMO
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Old 14-12-2011, 02:41 PM
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I liked the first impression too as I felt it was more "Batman begins" rather than the usual BrisVegas technicolour. At the moment I'm processing it again (you listening Mike?) to bring out more detail and structure but maintaining the look of the original.
Yes...I'm listening .

Hey the original had it's pluses but the new version is great too, viva Las Vegas ...has some nice background stuff showing through too, maybe combine the two...? Good that you were able to control the core without layering must mean you had the sub length just right for your scope-camera combo on such a bright bit, 5min through the AG12 with the Proline had the core as an unsalvagable bright white blob.

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Old 14-12-2011, 03:19 PM
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Nice outcome there, the QHY camera range are good value for money IMO
Thanks Trevor for the comments and I am happy re the QHY10
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Yes...I'm listening .

Hey the original had it's pluses but the new version is great too, viva Las Vegas ...has some nice background stuff showing through too, maybe combine the two...? Good that you were able to control the core without layering must mean you had the sub length just right for your scope-camera combo on such a bright bit, 5min through the AG12 with the Proline had the core as an unsalvagable bright white blob.

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Id love to get to a dark site again for a while to see exactly what my scopes can do but cant match your combo Mike. It just gulps down too many photons and makes great photos but Im happy in my own little pond.
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Old 14-12-2011, 03:36 PM
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Looking good Allan, i was expecting a bit more color though, but there is plenty of detail to overlook that
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Old 14-12-2011, 09:28 PM
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Allan, that's a lovely shot, well done

I like the second image the best, looks great with such minimal processing.

That camera/scope combo will be a winner
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Old 15-12-2011, 12:25 AM
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Good stuff Al, and congrats on the purchase.
Looks like you're onto a good combo here and look forward to more from this setup.

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Old 15-12-2011, 09:37 AM
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Hi Allan,
I think the QHY10 is a excelent camera, do you use an lp. filter ?
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Old 15-12-2011, 09:48 PM
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Looking good Allan, i was expecting a bit more color though, but there is plenty of detail to overlook that
Martin, it comes out differently each time I re- process it. I'm going to leave it alone for a while and re-visit it later. I'm happy with the detail too as the scope and this camera are well matched.
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Allan, that's a lovely shot, well done

I like the second image the best, looks great with such minimal processing.

That camera/scope combo will be a winner
Geoff thanks for the comments - much appreciated.
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Old 15-12-2011, 09:51 PM
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Good stuff Al, and congrats on the purchase.
Looks like you're onto a good combo here and look forward to more from this setup.

Rich
Thanks Rich it was good to get out with a scope for one night but I'm itching to try it out on my other scopes to see what I can do

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I think the QHY10 is a excelent camera, do you use an lp. filter ?
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Richard - no LP filter used as I use just the scope and camera.
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Old 16-12-2011, 06:59 PM
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Finally Ive had so many attempts to get this the way I wanted, but every time I came back to it the damned thing looked different. So Ive decided that this will be my final posting of this image.
But I must say that there is a lot of detail there and so much to work with that I'm glad I purchased the camera.
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Old 16-12-2011, 07:06 PM
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Allan that last picture is very nice but you have no color in any of the stars
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