Apple iPad II due in April 2011

[OICURMT]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

Releasing new models every year IMO is just another marketing ploy to get more money out of those who must have the latest, greatest toy.!!!

This is a very true statement. Humanities materialistic attitudes are the primary target for marketers... same Ego-Centric mentality that sustains the business of plastic surgery...


For those who have that "Keep up with the Jones" attitude... good luck in life, there's more to it than showing off.

OIC!

[rally]

Trevor,

"Releasing new models every year IMO is just another marketing ploy to get more money out of those who must have the latest, greatest toy.!!!"

Well of course it is !

I think every one on the planet knows this !
Every manufacturer of just about every type of product in the world is releasing new models every year or as soon as they can manage in an attempt to stay competitive with or leapfrog other manufacturers to grow or maintain market share, and as the technology develops the innovations continue to grow.

It's the public who demand this - people want the "best" item - they dont particularly want last year's technology, last years fashion colours and designs or the car without some new fangled feature.
They want this years technology with this years connectivity and compatibility and the ability to make use of the latest innovations, software, file and audiovisual formats, interfaces, reduction in size, extra speed, shape, fad, colour . . .

But this drives innovation and it drives technology and its evolution - without it - there wouldnt be anything like it and the tablets we would be talking about would still be inscribed clay and this discussion would be across a table not across the internet !

The iPad is clearly not for everyone - otherwise we would all own one. Nobody is saying that.
But its impossible to deny that those millions of people that use and like the iPad do in fact like and use the iPad ! - for whatever reason that it appeals to them - that may or may not appeal to you.

But from my own experience its a device without equal in so many vastly different areas.
I am not going to spell it out.
If you ever get the opportunity to use one for a month with your whole family you may begin to understand how good it is and how it appeals and gets used by different ages and different sorts of people in such different ways.
Video, audio, photos, books, applications, tools, calculators, demonstrations, sharing, email browsing . . .

Rally

[iceman (Mike)]

Originally Posted by rally

I think every one on the planet knows this !
Every manufacturer of just about every type of product in the world is releasing new models every year or as soon as they can manage in an attempt to stay competitive with or leapfrog other manufacturers to grow or maintain market share, and as the technology develops the innovations continue to grow.

It's the public who demand this - people want the "best" item - they dont particularly want last year's technology, last years fashion colours and designs or the car without some new fangled feature.
They want this years technology with this years connectivity and compatibility and the ability to make use of the latest innovations, software, file and audiovisual formats, interfaces, reduction in size, extra speed, shape, fad, colour . . .

But this drives innovation and it drives technology and its evolution - without it - there wouldnt be anything like it and the tablets we would be talking about would still be inscribed clay and this discussion would be across a table not across the internet !

Well said!

Anyone who's ever developed any type of product, whether it's software or anything else, has a 'wish list' of features a mile long.
Implementing new features has to be weighed against market and competitive pressures to get the product out.

The first version of the iPhone didn't allow you to send an SMS to more than one person! Of course that's terrible, but they wanted to get it out into the market, and they added those other features later.

Then you iterate.. develop new versions, technology changes and allows you to do more than you could before, so you get a new list of features you want to develop.

Apple are great at product development, user interfaces, marketing, and creating that emotional relationship between the user and the product.

[TrevorW]

I am not going to spell it out.
If you ever get the opportunity to use one for a month with your whole family you may begin to understand how good it is and how it appeals and gets used by different ages and different sorts of people in such different ways.
Video, audio, photos, books, applications, tools, calculators, demonstrations, sharing, email browsing . . .

Rally[/QUOTE]

Ain't going to happen maybe if they had a try before you buy it would be a good way to see whether a person could become an Ipad convert.

My final word on this is, it's actually not been a year, the actual release date may be a year since the original release but I'd say the IPad 2 was already in the works at the time of the original release.

[iceman (Mike)]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

My final word on this is, it's actually not been a year, the actual release date may be a year since the original release but I'd say the IPad 2 was already in the works at the time of the original release.

I have no doubt on this at all.
Of course it was in the works. They have smart product managers. They probably already have the ipad 4 and 5 planned.

[joe_smith]

Originally Posted by iceman

I have no doubt on this at all.
Of course it was in the works. They have smart product managers. They probably already have the ipad 4 and 5 planned.

I think its the sales and marketing people more then the product managers

[joe_smith]

It's the public who demand this - people want the "best" item - they dont particularly want last year's technology, last years fashion colours and designs or the car without some new fangled feature.
They want this years technology with this years connectivity and compatibility and the ability to make use of the latest innovations, software, file and audiovisual formats, interfaces, reduction in size, extra speed, shape, fad, colour . . .

But this drives innovation and it drives technology and its evolution - without it - there wouldnt be anything like it and the tablets we would be talking about would still be inscribed clay and this discussion would be across a table not across the internet !

sadly, this drives our egotistical love of the material world driven by greed. with all that money a few key players receive, with all that innovation all that technology and its evolution, why do over a 1500 children die from hunger related causes. That's one child every five seconds that's not advancing mankind its advancing greed based on peoples ignorance of the real world we live in.

this is just my view on the way mankind in the our part of the civilised world is going. Our kids are beiging raised on a ton of marketing hype that materialism is more important than human ethics.

[Octane (Humayun)]

Do you walk into a car showroom, or, a gallery selling fine art, and talk about starving children there, too?

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[OzRob (Rob)]

Originally Posted by iceman

...and creating that emotional relationship between the user and the product.

LOL...I suspect that is the problem with discussions such as this. The flip-side is that it also creates animosity in those who feel differently about the product.

[troypiggo (Troy)]

I resisted getting an iPhone for ages. Couldn't see the value in getting the early versions. More I noticed people using them and I took a bit of interest in what they could do, I started looking into one myself. Now I have one, I don't think I'll have anything else.

Don't plan on getting an iPad. Yet

Regarding how soon they're releasing a new version - Canon (and I assume Nikon) release a new DSLR camera in each series every 18 months or so, and they've been around much longer than the iPad.

[tlgerdes (Trevor)]

There is nothing wrong with developing version 2 before version 1 is released. I work for a software company and that is normal.

At the moment we have dev teams working on the 2011 releases and the next release after that of most of our products, that are not going to ship until 2012. We are also planning and experimenting with what is delivered in 2013 and beyond, so why any diff for a hardware company.

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

How interesting it is....

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/15/...titors-arrive/

ChangeWave Research reports on the results of a new survey conducted last month regarding corporate usage of tablet devices such as Apple's iPad. With new tablet offerings such as the HP Slate 500 and the Dell Streak now becoming available, the survey finds that businesses are still overwhelming supporting the iPad as tablet adoption increases at a rapid rate.

In terms of current usage, 7% of corporate respondents now say their company provides employees with Tablet devices - up 1-pt since our previous survey in August.

The Apple iPad (82%) remains by far the most popular Tablet for business purposes. H-P (e.g., Slate; 11%) and Dell (e.g., Streak; 7%) are also showing some traction among corporate users - but both remain far behind Apple's overwhelming share of the market.

Usage is expected to continue to surge, with the number of surveyed companies planning to be utilizing tablets in the first quarter of 2011 registering at 14%, double the current number. Those companies planning to begin using tablets early next year are also overwhelming planning to adopt the iPad, with 78% opting for Apple's tablet device.

Among those companies that have already begun using tablets, the iPad registers highest in satisfaction, with 69% of corporate users saying they are "very satisfied" with the device, compared to only 23% of HP tablet users and 12% of Dell tablet users.

Finally, the survey finds that corporate users are more broadly using the iPad for such functions as Internet access, corporate email, and on-the-road work when compared to the firm's August survey.