Sure, we are all entitled to our beliefs but I can only respond to this thread with humour because, as has been shown, no matter what you offer up in these type of threads, it is either taken the wrong way, dismissed or ridiculed.
(In my opinion, that is)
There was a fishing joke I wanted to post but it is in very poor taste and those who take this seriously would probably not be amused.....so I posted this one instead!
(Bill Leak could probably do a better job!)
cheers!
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I am considering becoming a Fruitarian. I understand that they only eat that which falls and thus is no longer alive. The only thing stopping me at this stage is that although I have travelled extensively over the years I have yet to find a grove of trees that grows bacon, lobsters, eggs, Grolsch or whiting fillets.....
I am considering becoming a Fruitarian. I understand that they only eat that which falls and thus is no longer alive. The only thing stopping me at this stage is that although I have travelled extensively over the years I have yet to find a grove of trees that grows bacon, lobsters, eggs, Grolsch or whiting fillets.....
I am considering becoming a Fruitarian. I understand that they only eat that which falls and thus is no longer alive. The only thing stopping me at this stage is that although I have travelled extensively over the years I have yet to find a grove of trees that grows bacon, lobsters, eggs, Grolsch or whiting fillets.....
Have you considered the ants, and other creatures, that may be killed from falling fruit if we are to accept your unethical proposal.
I am considering becoming a Fruitarian. I understand that they only eat that which falls and thus is no longer alive. The only thing stopping me at this stage is that although I have travelled extensively over the years I have yet to find a grove of trees that grows bacon, lobsters, eggs, Grolsch or whiting fillets.....
I wonder how that hot dog tree I planted is going.
I should add to the list of apologies- it was I who assumed that the logical extension of the OPs worldview was that to be consistent he must be a vegan, and only because I was genuinely impressed by the high level of empathy he clearly has with all things. He and Alex remind me of the Jainist monks of India, who hold life so dear that ants are gently brushed aside when they walk. Noble indeed.
My main point was that the best he can do is make people stop and think, which he has done.
"Is it cruel to talk about banning recreational fishing"?
cheers,
Phil
Yes. Yes there could. But if that's the case how dare you hijack my thread in the interim you rude ignoramous. I don't really feel that way Clancy. Please don't be offended. It's a bit of an inside joke for those who may have seen some of the deleted posts from the original thread. Tongue in cheek actually. Please feel feee to engage in the discussion herein in anyway you wish. If you want to start your own I applaud you.
Btw I appreciate a previous comment relating to my own statement to copy the thread for future proof of things said. Please let me clarify. In no way was I implying that people's statements would be recorded and used against them. For those unaware many of the posts in the afore linked thread were censored by the moderators. My point was aimed at the censorship of freedom of expression not at those who were free to express their opinions. Again my apologies if there was misunderstanding of my wording.
I promise no copies were made or harmed in the making of this discussion.
Hi Marty
Sorry I could not let it pass.
If you believe I am spiritual or religious I can only say I have given you an incorrect impression.
I am neither, I am an athiest's athiest.
I like to think I have good christian principles its just that I dont believe in God, that Jesus was the son of God or the resurrection. I like to be kind and rather peace than war but I really like cage fighting. I see no inconsistencies in my philosophy other than I would not call it a philosophy.
Alex
Here's something you never expected to come back and bite you on the bum Alex...
You weren't kind to that bloke you decked in the pub in Tabulam that time many years ago!
"Is it cruel to talk about banning recreational fishing"?
cheers,
Phil
You are entitled to start one if you wish or if you feel strongly I doubt if Les would object to you saying something here.
But I suspect you are trying to be cheerful by injecting a little humour into this thread.
Nevertheless I will make a comment on the proposition that you raise.
As I mentioned a fair ways back I think the word cruelty is probably best used where there is an intent to be cruel.
I dont think Les has it in him to be cruel or even unkind so I for one do not rate him presenting the subject as cruel.
No doubt when people think about the matter they will reach their own conclusions but I suspect many have not thought about wheter fish feel pain.
It seems there may beacase that they feel no pain although somehow it seems their experience is simply different to humans.
I personally think they must be at least very stressed.
You can dismiss the idea that they feel pain and rate folk who may be, by your standard, overly concerned with animals welfare as folk you could make fun of, and that is up to you.
I have found as the years pass by ones opinion can change and often when we look back think things we said years ago are now foolish.
Anyways if you wish to open a thread that would be great.
Here's something you never expected to come back and bite you on the bum Alex...
You weren't kind to that bloke you decked in the pub in Tabulam that time many years ago!
Just joshing btw
I am a different man in so far as I dont fish and once I was a very keen fisherman.
When each of my marriages broke up I would have said my partners were 100% in the wrong whereas today I honestly believe that it was me that was 100% in the wrong.
I am sure I havent decked anyone at the pub, I blocked two kicks from one chap to show him up but I did not hit him.
We went outside but I settled him down and convinced him it was not a good idea.
The guy at the new years party fell and hit his head and I did not hit him despite what the eye witnesses said. They were wrong. They saw what they wanted to see.
If I have said here that I hit someone it has now gone from my memory.
I won am arm wrestle that caused a stir maybe you are thinking of that.
If you know a post where I have said I hit someone I would like to see it so as to jogg my memory.
I like fighting but I cant recall hitting anyone for many years.
Once upon a time maybe but I never ever started a fight... Honest. And I never did more than I had to most ended with one straight left to their nose. After that they would regain their manners.
Alex
I am a different man in so far as I dont fish and once I was a very keen fisherman.
When each of my marriages broke up I would have said my partners were 100% in the wrong whereas today I honestly believe that it was me that was 100% in the wrong.
I am sure I havent decked anyone at the pub, I blocked two kicks from one chap to show him up but I did not hit him.
We went outside but I settled him down and convinced him it was not a good idea.
The guy at the new years party fell and hit his head and I did not hit him dispite what the eye witnesses said. They were wrong. They saw what they wanted to say.
If I have said here that I hit someone it has now gone from my memory.
I won am arm wrestle that caused a stir maybe you are thinking of that.
If you know a post where I have said I hit someone I would like to see it so as to jogg my memory.
I like fighting but I cant recall hitting anyone for many years.
Once upon a time maybe but I never ever startex a fight... Honest.
Alex
Hey Alex,
Like I said, I was only joking - no biggie.
In response to someone else's post about goings on in Tabulam, you said "I decked a bloke in a pub in Tabulam once".
The reason I remember it was because it was one of the first posts I read when I joined this site in 2007. I looked in history but you're such a prolific poster that it only goes back to May this year. But no matter, my post was supposed to be a bit of humour rather than pointing the finger. And since you don't remember the event, I guess it would be fair to say it's fallen a bit flat
Oh you were joking.
And I was trained mostly in jodo and jujitsu so in any real fights I went for a throw or submission. Hitting can easily damage your hand. And knocking someone out is not as easy as it seems as throw or submission is pretty conclusive.
Alex
I cant think who it could have been but that far back I was a little wild in those days.
Some of those days and nights are now hazy. Maybe I said that I nearly decked him. Or. Meant to say that..
If I did I am nkt proud of it.
Alex
Paul...be very wary of the Alex in sheep's clothing. I suspect he is subtle, clever and the master of the understatement. Never take anything he says at face value. Never play him in poker or monopoly. Clearly don't engage with him in any structures made of wire and shaped like an octagon.
Above all...if you're ever next to him on a train late at night and he asks you for whiskey and drinks down your last swallow...be sure that you already know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to walk away and (by god) know when to run...
Oh dear...did I see a reference earlier accusing me of being religious or spiritual...?
I can't be bothered to go back and find the specific quote. Let me clarify that I am only a man striving to atone for my sins. And I ask forgiveness for you all, for you know not what you say...
Anyway I have to get back to dragging this heavy cross up a hill. And the albatross hanging round my neck is holding me back. I really should return it to that old mariner and his dice playing friends...
