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Old 23-10-2012, 08:22 PM
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M16 - 50Hours of Narrowband Data

Hi Folks
one of my Sierra Remote colleagues, Larry Van Vleet, has kindly allowed me to process this whopping data set taken back in July of M16.

Its a total of 50.5hrs, comprised of 20 hrs Ha, 20 Hrs SII and 10.5 Hrs OIII acquired with a 16" RCOS and Apogee U16M.

http://www.martinpughastrophotograph...6NB_Martin.jpg

Pixel scale is 0.55asp.

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Old 23-10-2012, 08:28 PM
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Wow!!
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Old 23-10-2012, 08:36 PM
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I agree with Laurie, WOW!! Incredible image!
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Old 23-10-2012, 08:50 PM
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It may aswell be 3D, in your large version I've been cruising around your image with almost a floating feeling, amazing!!!!

I would really like to see your image wall Martin.

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Old 23-10-2012, 08:52 PM
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Jaw dropping as usual Martin. An absolutely fabulous image - I'm in awe.
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Old 23-10-2012, 09:02 PM
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Amazing depth - great data and great processing.
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Old 23-10-2012, 09:14 PM
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Looks like Hubble took it.
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Old 23-10-2012, 09:37 PM
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A great photo Martin.

Amazing detail.

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Old 23-10-2012, 09:55 PM
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A fantastic image, Martin!
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Old 23-10-2012, 09:56 PM
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Superb.

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Old 23-10-2012, 10:00 PM
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wow 50 hrs of imaging. Martin do you just keep taking images and keep restacking them with old data?BTW fantastic work it looks like you hacked into hubble.
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Old 23-10-2012, 10:15 PM
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Oddly enough, the depth of the data does not impress me.

The smoothness on the other hand....yep...wow!
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Old 23-10-2012, 11:31 PM
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I just died and went there.

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Impressive but recently there has been a couple of images posted with 50+hrs of data collected but the images IMO don't seem that more impressive than others I've seen posted with a lot less data in total.

At what point in imaging does the law of diminishing returns apply
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Old 24-10-2012, 02:09 AM
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Impressive but recently there has been a couple of images posted with 50+hrs of data collected but the images IMO don't seem that more impressive than others I've seen posted with a lot less data in total.

At what point in imaging does the law of diminishing returns apply
This is a beautiful image for sure!

With NB data the signals are pretty weak and there is a law of diminishing returns but as long as the signal to noise ratio improves, it makes the image that much nicer.

At some point you may not get any deeper or see any more detail but the smoothness and contrast will normally continue to improve.

I have found that at least with NB data, there is no such thing as too much data
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Old 24-10-2012, 02:59 AM
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Impressive but recently there has been a couple of images posted with 50+hrs of data collected but the images IMO don't seem that more impressive than others I've seen posted with a lot less data in total.

At what point in imaging does the law of diminishing returns apply
Having posted a 50+ hour image, it's all about gathering enough signal to smooth out the background. Especially so with a small 105mm f/5 refractor. The story would be different with a 12" f/3.5 or 8" f/3. Aperture wins!

As my exposure set increased, I could definately see fainter detail as the signal smoothed during the combines. However, what I began to see at 25 hours in the H-a image was sky background beginning to wash out fainter details.

The filter bandpass is also a factor. 5nm vs. 3nm will show different details. I think with 3nm, I would rarely reach sky background with an f/5 telescope.

I also have to say that my processing of color images is really quite novice in experience. More work to do. In 50+ hours of total HII and OIII exposure, I have a massive data to work with. Makes it easier to process, sharpen and smooth without the obvious side effectes of such processing.

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Old 24-10-2012, 03:01 AM
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BTW Martin, your processing is second to none. You should be teaching at AIC!
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Old 24-10-2012, 03:12 AM
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Beautiful image all round I can clearly see why its called the Eagle Nebula, the beak, wings and tail are very discernable! The colours are stunning!

Out of interest how much time would you spend post-editing such an image including stacking?
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Old 24-10-2012, 03:19 AM
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As Kevin said, that's an image worthy of Hubble. Truly amazing!
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Old 24-10-2012, 06:50 AM
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Hello Martin !

This is a beautiful image , is superb !!

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