iinet on speed!!

bartman (Bart) · #1 11-05-2012, 07:52 PM

Just curious if there is a reason to this......
Got a email this morning saying that there was a fault in WA for ADSL customers and that there may be connection problems. The following emails said that customers have been switched over to "alternate equipment" whilst they resolve the problem.
Well.....download speeds have increased heaps! for instance, Pauls mosaic of the sun wich is 1.3mb ( so be warned) cam up within! a second. I downloaded a youtube vid ( 150mb) and the download speed indicates it was running between 1.0 and 2.0mb/s, where as normally I would get max about 0.5 to 0.75mb/s.

So the question is , why is this so ? anyone have some idea?
My speedtest.net results are pretty much the same as per previous tests......

Anyhoo

Bartman

mill (Martin) · #2 11-05-2012, 07:55 PM

I am with iinet and get 1.5Mb/s on the adsl1 plan with turbo.
I have to say that i live about 400Mtr from the exchange.

MrB (Simon) · #3 11-05-2012, 08:05 PM

Mb/s or MB/s? bits or bytes?
I used to get approx 9Mb/s(~1MB/s) on vivid until they went "unlimited" and oversubscribed, it is crippled now.
I really miss the speed, used to be nice downloading 100MB files in about 90 seconds.

Wish I could find an alternative.

bartman (Bart) · #4 11-05-2012, 08:07 PM

I'm about 750 meters away Martin.
Is the 1.5Mb/s constant in downloads?
Maybe I have been ripped of all this time?
I,m on adsl2+ thrill seeker setting........
Will have to keep an eye on this now...

Visionoz (Bill) · #5 11-05-2012, 08:09 PM

Bart

Could be that your connection's been temporarily "unchoked" - perhaps bypassed the proxy server that could "control" your dataflow

Used to do that to shape the customers' bandwidth so that it gets an upper limit to prevent tooooooooo muuuuuuuch downloads!

HTH
Cheers
Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartman

Just curious if there is a reason to this......
Got a email this morning saying that there was a fault in WA for ADSL customers and that there may be connection problems. The following emails said that customers have been switched over to "alternate equipment" whilst they resolve the problem.
Well.....download speeds have increased heaps! for instance, Pauls mosaic of the sun wich is 1.3mb ( so be warned) cam up within! a second. I downloaded a youtube vid ( 150mb) and the download speed indicates it was running between 1.0 and 2.0mb/s, where as normally I would get max about 0.5 to 0.75mb/s.

So the question is , why is this so ? anyone have some idea?
My speedtest.net results are pretty much the same as per previous tests......

Anyhoo

Bartman

bartman (Bart) · #6 11-05-2012, 08:12 PM

Yeah I know MrB, Mb/s or MB/s...wish they could come up with a standard across the board....

Well just tried another vid from utube and got my usual 150KB/s.
What I was getting before was 1000KB/s+

bartman (Bart) · #7 11-05-2012, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visionoz

Bart

Could be that your connection's been temporarily "unchoked" - perhaps bypassed the proxy server that could "control" your dataflow

Used to do that to shape the customers' bandwidth so that it gets an upper limit to prevent tooooooooo muuuuuuuch downloads!

HTH
Cheers
Bill

That does make sense Bill!
Hope it stays broken for a while heheheheheh

Bartman
PS.....what are you saying? am I downloading toooooo much

mill (Martin) · #8 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM

On ADSL2 you should be able to download at 8MB/s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartman

I'm about 750 meters away Martin.
Is the 1.5Mb/s constant in downloads?
Maybe I have been ripped of all this time?
I,m on adsl2+ thrill seeker setting........
Will have to keep an eye on this now...

Blue Skies (Jacquie) · #9 11-05-2012, 08:35 PM

All I can say is you were lucky - while I could download emails I couldn't access anything on the net at all this morning! 'Tis ok now, of course.

tlgerdes (Trevor) · #10 11-05-2012, 08:37 PM

8MB/s = 80Mb/s

B = Byte
b = bits

ADSL2+ will be between 1.5Mb/s - 20Mb/s depending on how far you are from the exchange and the quality of the copper.

Marke (Mark) · #11 11-05-2012, 08:39 PM

They probably put you onto an internode switch as they are now part of the same company . Internode have always been very quick , I am a couple ks away and I d/l at 1.3Mps any time of day.

mill (Martin) · #12 11-05-2012, 08:41 PM

I think you know what we mean

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlgerdes

8MB/s = 80Mb/s

B = Byte
b = bits

ADSL2+ will be between 1.5Mb/s - 20Mb/s depending on how far you are from the exchange and the quality of the copper.

bartman (Bart) · #13 11-05-2012, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Skies

All I can say is you were lucky - while I could download emails I couldn't access anything on the net at all this morning! 'Tis ok now, of course.

Thats cause its harder to push those bits up the hill though

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marke

They probably put you onto an internode switch as they are now part of the same company . Internode have always been very quick , I am a couple ks away and I d/l at 1.3Mps any time of day.

Yes I've heard that too....mmmm I'm moving house in a week , maybe a change is in order?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mill

I think you know what we mean

By putting a few bits ( pardon the pun) of info together from the responses, me tinks certain sections of suburbs are subject to certain equipment, routed or otherwise.
Just all looks and feels a bit dodgy to me at the moment....

BTW not that I'm getting terrible connection/s or unusual slow download speeds.
I'm happy(ish) with what I have and cant really complain, but now that I know that it could be faster........I wonder....
Bartman

MrB (Simon) · #14 11-05-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlgerdes

8MB/s = 80Mb/s

Close. 8MB/s = 64Mbit/s and 80Mbit/s = 10MB/s

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #15 11-05-2012, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlgerdes

ADSL2+ will be between 1.5Mb/s - 20Mb/s depending on how far you are from the exchange and the quality of the copper.

...and contention ratio.

bartman (Bart) · #16 11-05-2012, 09:20 PM

Connection ratio Chris?
Does that mean how many are connected at the same time to the same whatsa ma call it....( forgot the name). I thought only applied to Cable internet?
Bartman

Visionoz (Bill) · #17 11-05-2012, 09:23 PM

Nah, Bart not ya! - It's those other guys mate! Honest!

BTW - iiNet owns their own DSLAMS in all the telephone exchanges - and no single ISP has their own POPs (point-of-presence) in every city in Australia except of course Telstra themselves so enjoy whatever speeds more than you've experienced before until some hardworking techie realizes what's happening and put you back in the corral

Cheers
Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartman

That does make sense Bill!
Hope it stays broken for a while heheheheheh

Bartman
PS.....what are you saying? am I downloading toooooo much

bartman (Bart) · #18 11-05-2012, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visionoz

Nah, Bart not ya! - It's those other guys mate! Honest!

BTW - iiNet owns their own DSLAMS in all the telephone exchanges - and no single ISP has their own POPs (point-of-presence) in every city in Australia except of course Telstra themselves so enjoy whatever speeds more than you've experienced before until some hardworking techie realizes what's happening and put you back in the corral

Cheers
Bill

I was going to multi quote your post Bill, but I think.......your post says it all!!!!!!!!
Thanks the HTH did!
DSLAMS was the equipment name I was looking for in my previous post btw heheheh so thanks for the reminder heheheheh.

....think I'm back in the corral too by the looks of it.....
Oh well, I did learn something though!
Cheers
Bartman

mithrandir (Andrew) · #19 11-05-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrB

Close. 8MB/s = 64Mbit/s and 80Mbit/s = 10MB/s

It depends on what you mean by bytes downloaded. You may not be counting encapsulation bytes.

Assume a maximum of 1500 bytes/frame (standard ethernet size not including the ethernet header which does not go down the wire).
ADSL requires 8 bytes/block for LLC/SNAP headers.
IP requires 20 bytes header per fragment.
TCP requires at least 20 header bytes/packet.

So at best you get 1500-8-20-20=1452 bytes of data/frame.

Roughly 1.3Km from the exchange my ADSL runs downstream at about 13Mb/sec, so 13e6*1452/1500=12.584e6 Mb/sec=1.573e6 MB/sec is in the ballpark for downloads from mirror.aarnet.edu.au

MrB (Simon) · #20 11-05-2012, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrandir

It depends on what you mean by bytes downloaded. You may not be counting encapsulation bytes.

None of that matters, there are always 8bits per Byte.
What you are describing is the data rate.
What we are talking about is percieved speed.
If the speed is showing as 8MB/s, it is 64Mbit/s at that same point of reference no matter how the data is formatted.