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16-02-2012, 04:36 PM
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Should any animal be treated this way ??
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/...cken-solution/
Sorry I'm appalled by this the whole idea turns my stomach and I love chicken, I don't care what creature it is they should be granted a modicre of dignity
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16-02-2012, 05:22 PM
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oh dear i could only read a few lines then i had to close the page or i would never eat chicken again
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16-02-2012, 05:37 PM
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Theres no dignity for the animal involved in 99% of chicken farming.
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16-02-2012, 05:46 PM
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Thats why I like free range chicken, role on food replicators (Star Trek) I know what would we do with all those chickens and eggs if we didn't eat them
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18-02-2012, 04:21 AM
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This story is a page filler by wired they got off the Onion.
It would cost more then conventual farming and wouldn't resolve any ethical or public concerns about industrial farming.
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18-02-2012, 07:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenGee
This story is a page filler by wired they got off the Onion.
It would cost more then conventual farming and wouldn't resolve any ethical or public concerns about industrial farming.
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Costs or practicality aside the fact that someone came up with this idea is disturbing, a Josef Mengele of the animal world. If in fact the acticle is remotely accurate.
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19-02-2012, 08:19 AM
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Forget the animal welfare aspect, the true significance of the "experiment" is designed to show CORPORATIONS how to maximise their profit. Notice how there was no mention on the quality of feed the 'frankenanimals' would be fed? It's no oversight. And, in the end, we are supposed to eat this! CORPORATIONS get around this by branding the stuff "product", not food - what you do with it after purchasing it is upto you. They didn't say it was "food". Use it as a necklace if you like.
Think I'm making this up? Read the back of your favourite brekkie cereal, soft drink, tin of beans: always reads "this product" & "serving suggestion", never does it mention FOOD or that you should actually eat the stuff. Go on, have a look as dispassionately as you can, forgetting that you are feeding this to your kids.
PS: Industrial processes that are involved in the manufacture of a product, even if they involve the use of chemicals, those chemicals DO NOT need to be listed in amoungst the ingredients, as it is part of an industrial process. It is not part of the strict "product" definition. You are not told that caustic soda is used in the "peeling process" of that tin of peaches in the pantry - its use is part of the industrial process. Reckon it is not in that tin? But it is not listed, is it.
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19-02-2012, 09:38 AM
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These practices are going to come and bite us back in the a$$ within a few generation. You don't mess with what you eat IMHO. We're doing too many tinkering with hormones, genes and what not with our stock already. Troubles ahead indeed.
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19-02-2012, 10:26 AM
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I continue to be amazed that anyone buys anything other than free range chicken; it's as if the supermarket is the source of the chickens and they had no life prior to that.
Growing up on a farm, we raised and killed all of the poultry we ate. The animals were always treated with respect prior to culling and were a great source of entertainment to us kids; I remember putting my hands on a board with ducks excitedly lined up around me waiting for the smorgasboard of bugs to be exposed. I had a pet rooster which sat on my shoulder while I watched TV (chick-chick mysteriously disappeared one day - I think he ended up in soup, possibly because he wasn't house trained  ).
Perhaps most people are just too disconnected from their food source to care?
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20-02-2012, 01:35 PM
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Perhaps most people are just too disconnected from their food source to care?[/QUOTE]
Tony, so true and thats the issue, do we loose sight of our morality for the sake of our stomachs.
I have a soft spot when it comes to animals, love them all yet I know where my meat comes from
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20-02-2012, 02:15 PM
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When I was a kid in the early sixties if we wanted a chicken dinner it was my job to cut the head of the non laying chickens in our backyard. It was done swiftly and cleanly. I have not tasted chicken as good as those.
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20-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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I believe to the Hindu all animals are sacred, most of them are vegeterians, whereas meat eaters who rely on these animals for a food we are obliged IMO to treat all of them with dignity.
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20-02-2012, 03:50 PM
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If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat....
Jokes aside, have any of you seen that video of the chicken hatchery where the downy yellow chicks are taken past sorters on a conveyor belt in their thousands - all the cute little male fluffies are tossed off the back of the belt and straight into a rotating screw that minces them all up alive, to be used as pet food?
It is one of the most revolting, cold and barbaric things you'll ever see.
There are better ways to do these things surely.
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20-02-2012, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avandonk
When I was a kid in the early sixties if we wanted a chicken dinner it was my job to cut the head of the non laying chickens in our backyard. It was done swiftly and cleanly. I have not tasted chicken as good as those.
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Yep that was how it was done in those days. Dad used to do the chopping. Ever see a headless chook fly over the fence. They needed to be hung to bleed before mum got the job of plucking it by dousing it with boiling water. Then came the job of gutting it and separatiing the giblets for another meal. I think that old procedure was what made them taste better.
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20-02-2012, 04:27 PM
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20-02-2012, 05:00 PM
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My favourite part: "So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe."
All the intelligent life is hiding away from us meat heads
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