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12-11-2011, 02:42 AM
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How Sad
The headline on the ABC web page reads
The appearance of a mysterious bright spot on Uranus has mobilised amateur astrologists.  
Then goes on to show a picture of Jupiter 
See link here
Pretty pathetic in my book 
Cheers
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12-11-2011, 03:12 AM
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I have just registered a complaint about the poor fact checking for this article is anyone want's to have a go the link is
http://www.abc.net.au/contact/contactabc.htm
all the best
Paul
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12-11-2011, 03:19 AM
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It actually says "second most distant planet from Earth in our solar system". This still technically incorrect as Pluto is no longer a planet...
However, it is confusing when they constantly refer to Uranus but you see the photo of Jupiter. But the one for me is the reference to "astrologists"  as you've pointed out Ron.
Darrin...
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12-11-2011, 08:14 AM
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On a similar note, my son tells me that ABC news wasted time last night interviewing an "astrologer" about the significance of the date 11/11/11.
How this opinion could be news I'm not sure.
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12-11-2011, 09:06 AM
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When the ABC is good everyone loves them.
When there bad yep there bad.
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12-11-2011, 10:58 AM
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Moving to Pandora
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oh dear shame shame shame 
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12-11-2011, 11:18 AM
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Wow, what a doozy! That is very sad indeed
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12-11-2011, 11:43 AM
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The fact that NO-ONE in any part of that articles production read Uranus but saw Jupiters picture speaks volumes to me about ANY of the article's produced authenticity or accuracy.
Its akin to telling us about Miss Brown the 34 year old axe murderer and showing us a picture of Santa !!!
I know how much this community LOVES being associated with Astrology too ... so IM not going to go there !!!!
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12-11-2011, 12:03 PM
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Geez, some of these journalists just are not very bright at all.
Isn't the editor supposed to check things like that.
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12-11-2011, 01:21 PM
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Well the article itself is quite good, if you ignore the photo, and the interview with Bird and Trevor is excellent, the interviewer even got the pronunciation of Uranus right.
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12-11-2011, 02:58 PM
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send it in to their media watch
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12-11-2011, 03:55 PM
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Reading the story I got the impression that it is the picture of Jupiter we should ignore and that the spot in question is on Uranus.
Do I have this right?
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12-11-2011, 04:25 PM
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Bit of an over-reaction. The article (text of conversation) is technically accurate. The spot they are talking about is on Uranus, which is the second most distant planet in the solar system now that Pluto has been down-graded. The references to Jupiter are about observation's made by Anthony Wesley of meter/asteroid strikes in 2009/2010.
If they don't have an image of the Uranus spot, the photo of Jupiter is next best and in context with the discussion. Jupiter has spots.
Here is another reference to bright spots on Uranus ...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...space-science/
My only quibble is of the use of the term "astrologer". Perhaps the web manager is astronomically illiterate. I don't think you can necessarily blame Naoh Schultz-Byard. But someone should oversee the accuracy of the primary web page content.
Regards, Rob
Last edited by Robh; 12-11-2011 at 04:42 PM.
Reason: Added some after thoughts.
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12-11-2011, 04:41 PM
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Yes Rob,My quibble was with the title 
I am sure the ABC with all it's resourses could find a picture of Uranus,even one without a white spot would have done 
One gets fed up with so called science journelist who do not even check their stories 
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12-11-2011, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by astroron
Yes Rob,My quibble was with the title 
I am sure the ABC with all it's resourses could find a picture of Uranus,even one without a white spot would have done 
One gets fed up with so called science journelist who do not even check their stories 
Cheers 
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Hi Ron,
You are right in pointing it out. Whoever manages that primary page needs to ensure its accuracy. I was referring to some of the other posts that were lambasting the actual conversation/text, which was accurate.
Regards, Rob
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12-11-2011, 04:53 PM
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Hi Rob,I undstood what you where alluding to, and agree whole heartedly.
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12-11-2011, 07:12 PM
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As Astronomers we do NOT use the ancient mystical rubbish called Astrology
Not all of it is mystical? Most ancient astrology is based upon observation and deduction. Ancient astrologers were actually persecuted by all the abrahamic religions, which would lead one to believe they were less mystical than the religious authorities who destroyed their work. I used astrology to predict this financial crash occurring in september of this year so I knew to stay out of the markets. Financial astrology is quite technical. It's more like a giant regular clockwork for making deductions. I don't think financial astrologers are interested in doing incantations and alchemy, and `beseeching the gods'. Then there are `star sign' people who really are mystics. I'm not trying to correct you or anything but i'd just like you to be aware that astrology never went away like the textbooks claim and there are lots of us out here and we are confident in our abilities, since they seem to work. Thank you.
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12-11-2011, 07:43 PM
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Bright the hawk's flight
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Oh come on Chucky! Not that rubbish again. If "Financial Astrology" works, where are all the billionaire astrologers?
Malcolm
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12-11-2011, 08:58 PM
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Just cant get enough
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13-11-2011, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barx1963
Oh come on Chucky! Not that rubbish again. If "Financial Astrology" works, where are all the billionaire astrologers?
Malcolm
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Well in all fairness I believe it is true to say that astrology can be described as `mystic', certainly. It has many unknown variables associated which prevent it from ever being described as an exact science... kind of like trying to say that humans are responsible for MOST global warming. I mean IF humans are making all the species go extinct, it follows that humans are the MAJOR vector for changing the planet and therefore the MOST LIKELY cause of the said warming. That's not an exact science either... and the reason is there is too many variables for one human to contemplate. Just because something is not as exact as a mathematical equation, (i'd like to see something in the universe which is  ) does not necessarily mean something should be dismissed as `rubbish'. That work riles me up. It irks me.
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