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Old 28-11-2009, 07:15 AM
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A Rogue Star Going Wild?

"Attention, astronomers! Please keep a close eye on Eta Carinae! It's acting up again."

OK, that's not exactly how Dan Green worded the announcement in IAU Circular 9094 on November 11th, but the gist of his alert was crystal clear. Observations made last August with Hubble's Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph (STIS), now back in action after failing in 2004, show that one of the most massive and unstable stars known has surged in brightness over the past six months. Now at magnitude 5.1, it's fairly easy picking with the unaided eye for southern-sky observers. And there's every indication that more surprises are in the offing.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/75160377.html
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:20 AM
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thanks glenc something may happen over the coming months
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:35 AM
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Now at magnitude 5.1, it's fairly easy picking with the unaided eye for southern-sky observers.
Eta Car is varying between 4.1 and 4.7 magnitude over the last month or so.

THE AAVSO Raw data for 2009 till now can be easily viewed at;
http://www.aavso.org/cgi-bin/newql.p...ar&output=html

Suitable charts of the comparison magnitudes are available at;
http://www.aavso.org/news/etacar.shtml#charts
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:51 AM
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Here is David Frew's historical record for eta Carinae. (7.8Mb) http://geosn.com/
In 1844 it was mag minus one, brighter than Canopus but fainter than Sirius.
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Old 28-11-2009, 08:48 AM
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Here is David Frew's historical record for eta Carinae. (7.8Mb) http://geosn.com/
In 1844 it was mag minus one, brighter than Canopus but fainter than Sirius.
Read it. Love it. Would recommend something that should have been read by every Aussie amateur worth his salt.

Imagine what the maximum -0.8 red star looked like half-way between the Cross and Canopus. I only dream something like this happens before I leave this mortal coil!!
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Old 28-11-2009, 09:36 AM
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I wanna be imaging in that direction when it goes off.
What a sight that would be.
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Old 28-11-2009, 09:43 AM
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May of already happened JJ
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I wanna be imaging in that direction when it goes off.
What a sight that would be.
You probably might need a set of neutral density filters or perhaps a solar filter, as you might damage the camera!

If eta Car goes off it would be over -11 or -12, all tightly concentrated in a near point source, so you might need sunglasses too! Worst still, you might not be able to use a telescope towards it, as it may damage your eyes - permanently! (Remember, the Moon's magnitude is spread over a half-a-degree disk! The supernova focuses like a laser-beam, being 16,000 times brighter than Sirius!)
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Old 28-11-2009, 10:47 AM
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Yep. I've been doing some research and on my calculations I reckon she's set to blow on about 21 December 2012. Oh Owe!
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Old 28-11-2009, 11:56 AM
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That's funny??? Isn't something else supposed to happen on that date???
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Old 28-11-2009, 04:54 PM
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It certainly will be a spectacular sight, but I reckon it will ruin the deep sky viewing for a while.

We may have to move to the northern hemisphere.
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Old 28-11-2009, 05:14 PM
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Kev may have is sunnies on at night.

Or when everybody else in the world have there eyes towards Eta Car it may be time to look elsewhere for a discovery of some type.

Anyway Cheers Kev.
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Old 28-11-2009, 06:56 PM
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Makes me glad that we're in the southern hemisphere, we'll have front row seats on the show.
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:10 PM
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Oh good. Eight months of cloud and now a bleeding supernova.
Interestimg for about an hour.
Might as well have stayed in the city and gazed at car headlights. Tch!
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:44 PM
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What if it goes boom and then everyone turns out that night to watch the spectacular light show and all seems wonderful and grand but then the next day your in bed with bandages on your eyes only something doesnt seem right because its a Monday morning only it sounds like a Sunday and someone was gonna come and take your bandages off today to see if you could see again only no ones coming and you can hear people bumping into furniture and stuff. WHAT THEN!!!!!
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We all know what happens next Claude.
The Triffids come and start killing everyone.
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Old 28-11-2009, 07:52 PM
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We all know what happens next Claude.
The Triffids come and start killing everyone.
I Know!!!! I'm scared!!!
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Old 28-11-2009, 08:03 PM
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Just keep a couple of buckets of salt water near the front door. You'll be all right.
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Old 28-11-2009, 09:30 PM
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what is the salt water for, jjjnettie?? Cane toads, slugs? What about garlic for the werewolfs
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You water Triffids with salt water to kill 'em.
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