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Old 15-09-2009, 08:39 PM
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Question NGC 6188 Tak FSQ106ED & QHY8

This was a problematic image for me, but it was all my own fault!!

The image was to be a ripper consisting of 15 X 20 minute images but alas I didn't check my focus during the imaging session and with the temprature dropping from around 13 degrees to 3 degrees in a couple of hours my focus drift was quite large.
Anyone who knows these scopes will be aware of the small critical focus position and how a small change can totally stuff an image.

I ended up with 5 X 20 minute exposures I could use.

The image was cropped a little to get rid of some Ice which formed on tthe bottom of the CCD due to the low tempratures. Camera was somewhere around -40 degrees C.

Hi res image: http://www.darkskyau.com/cm/displayi...215&fullsize=1

Thanks for looking, I Know its not my best but it has been a while.
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Old 15-09-2009, 08:53 PM
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Aw it's not that bad Doug, an image is an image and we've all seen much worse.

Funnily enough I have only imaged 6188 once and I had some trouble with it too

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Old 15-09-2009, 08:59 PM
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Nice piccie Doug, considering the trouble you had
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Old 15-09-2009, 09:38 PM
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Looks ok, Hagar. I can never get anything decent on that one either!

On a side note, did you know you were in Astronomy Magazine a month or so ago, Mike? Do you really lift boulders??
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Old 16-09-2009, 12:53 AM
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Very nice image Doug.
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Old 16-09-2009, 06:29 AM
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Looks ok, Hagar. I can never get anything decent on that one either!

On a side note, did you know you were in Astronomy Magazine a month or so ago, Mike? Do you really lift boulders??
Which issue (month) was that? - PM me. I've had a few images published in US Astronomy but I assume you are refering to a bit of a Bio on me...? Err yes, I "used" to lift boulders

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Old 16-09-2009, 07:57 AM
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I agree, not too bad Doug. That must have been annoying though 5 hours of exposures not to your liking.

FSQ needs refocusing as you say about every 2C change in temp.

So if a cold change comes through then it'll be off. You can get a temperature compensating robofocus. You train the robofocus software to the scope and its temperature changes and it will adjust automatically.

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Old 16-09-2009, 09:01 AM
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Doug, you might want to chat to Monte Wilson. He got that sorted out by heating and insulating the OTA tube to keep both ends within a very small temperature differential. Some kind of regulated dew heater system. I think it's working great for him.

Opps. Picture's great by the way. Nice colors and tracking. Stars a bit overwhelming and soft though due to your focus.
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I agree, not too bad Doug. That must have been annoying though 5 hours of exposures not to your liking.

FSQ needs refocusing as you say about every 2C change in temp.

So if a cold change comes through then it'll be off. You can get a temperature compensating robofocus. You train the robofocus software to the scope and its temperature changes and it will adjust automatically.

Greg.

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Old 16-09-2009, 09:07 AM
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Hi Doug, thats still a very nice image regardless, even more so inlight of the problems you faced.

thanks for sharin'


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Old 16-09-2009, 09:13 AM
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It looks pretty good for only 5 subs. Not much noise (mostly introduced from the resample for the forum no doubt) and colours look great too. I did this myself last year and managed to get 6 x 12 on it, but it was from light polluted Adelaide. On list for another shot at it from Clayton.
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Old 16-09-2009, 09:36 AM
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Oh boy, loosing 200 minutes due to focus shift, I feel for you Doug, that would drive me crazy.
At least you got some data to use and it's turned out nicely for 100 minutes mate.

I stuffed up in a similar way one night because I hadn't tightened the clam shell onto the mount all the way down, it was just ever so slightly loose giving it a bit of play and half the data was ruined.

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Old 16-09-2009, 09:52 PM
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Thanks for the comments everyone.
Paul, Would be good from your dark site. It is fairly dim and takes a bit of teasing.
Andrew, Not as bad as the night I setup to shoot 5 hrs of 30 min exposures and forgot to start guiding. You can imagine 5 hrs of star trails, not nice.
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Old 16-09-2009, 10:46 PM
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Not as bad as the night I setup to shoot 5 hrs of 30 min exposures and forgot to start guiding. You can imagine 5 hrs of star trails, not nice.
Doug, one would hope you either had a carbon fibre tube or temp compensating focuser? 5 hours of not checking and adjusting focus makes you a bad boy

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Old 16-09-2009, 11:56 PM
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Doug, one would hope you either had a carbon fibre tube or temp compensating focuser? 5 hours of not checking and adjusting focus makes you a bad boy

Mike
Te mperature was already down to -2 degrees and had been there for quite a while. Went to bed and left everything running overnight. Except my guider of course.:confu sed2:
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:30 PM
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Doug,

This area seems like the one region everyone has issues with!

I've had one attempt at it through a 10" SN and it came out crap. Admittedly, it was low on the horizon at the time and the mirror had dewed up.

Well done on a valiant effort, though.

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