Did Yoko or Paul break up the Beatles

FredSnerd (Claude) · #1 07-09-2009, 08:39 AM

The question says it all really. I reckon it was Paul (and no one can make me say Sir Paul)

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #2 07-09-2009, 09:09 AM

Her very presence during practice and recording sessions created a LOT of tension with the other band members. John wouldn't do a thing without consulting her, and her influence on his music was deplorable.
They were obviously very much in love, no denying that, and he wrote some beautiful music because of that.
But if John had stuck to business and kept her out of the studio, maybe we'd have more Beatles music to enjoy.

renormalised (Carl) · #3 07-09-2009, 09:31 AM

I'll bet the other guys called her Yoko "Oh,no!!". Like Jeanette said, she was a royal pain in the butt...still is if you ask me.

FredSnerd (Claude) · #4 07-09-2009, 09:37 AM

Yeah but dont you get the sense that Linda fired Paul up a bit. Both Yoko and Linda wanted to have more involvement (and even sing) with the band. Jeanette, you just like Linda more cause she was a photographer.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #5 07-09-2009, 09:37 AM

That voice.

Makes me shudder.
Double Fantasy would have been his best album IMO if it wasn't for her tracks.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #6 07-09-2009, 09:46 AM

Linda's voice wasn't that much chop either. If she's The Cook of the House, maybe she should have stayed in the kitchen.

I know that Ringo can't hold a tune either, but his voice suited the songs he contributed. Can you imagine Yellow Submarine or Octopus's Garden sung by anyone else but him? Ringo's great isn't he.

FredSnerd (Claude) · #7 07-09-2009, 09:54 AM

Yeah I liked Ringo too but I reckon many of their songs were improved by others. Little help from my friends (joe cocker) and I really liked the version of Eleanor Rigby that the Zoot did. I'm sure there are others too I just cant remember them off hand.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #8 07-09-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FredSnerd

Yeah I liked Ringo too but I reckon many of their songs were improved by others. Little help from my friends (joe cocker) and I really liked the version of Eleanor Rigby that the Zoot did. I'm sure there are others too I just cant remember them off hand.

Heyyy, I had that single by Zoot. Cockers version of "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" is pretty cool too. He does great covers that guy.

Wavytone · #9 07-09-2009, 10:00 AM

Both Yoko and Linda were "dangerously intrusive" - determined to interfere one way or another.

However I also think the foursome had reached the limits of its musical creativity well before - IMHO their high point was the Sgt Peppers and Abbey Rd LP's, after which they sound tired, irrelevant, childish, and in some tracks plain awful to listen to.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #10 07-09-2009, 10:09 AM

The Beatles didn't stick to just one style though. That was why they lasted so long. From Helter Skelter to Norwegian Wood to Yellow Submarine.
And don't ever forget how important George Martin was to them too. An invaluable influence to their music.

FredSnerd (Claude) · #11 07-09-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjnettie

The Beatles didn't stick to just one style though. That was why they lasted so long. From Helter Skelter to Norwegian Wood to Yellow Submarine.
And don't ever forget how important George Martin was to them too. An invaluable influence to their music.

Yeah i think that was the secret of their success. How does the industry put it "They were able to reinvent themselves" And they did it a few times. And yes, Absolutely about George Martin. It takes alot of the right people being at the right place at the right time to make a phenomonon like the beatles happen. And the thing is they changed the world so dramatically. I wonder if anyone else in the 21st century changed the world as much

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #12 07-09-2009, 10:31 AM

The yoko factor...

of course she did, she had him you know what whipped. Poor guy.

Dave

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #13 07-09-2009, 10:36 AM

He didn't seem to mind too much David.
Love is blind.

FredSnerd (Claude) · #14 07-09-2009, 10:41 AM

My daughters reckon it was Yoko. It really winds them up when I say I reckon it was Linda (They loved Linda). And what about that **** digger he ended up hitching up with not long after. They were still sending out "Thanks for your well wishes" cards when that happened. I dont even wanna talk about it.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #15 07-09-2009, 10:44 AM

Classic rebound. Lucky he's loaded so he could pay her off and send her on her way.

matt · #16 07-09-2009, 11:10 AM

If Yoko wasn't the reason, she certainly played a significant role in their breakup.

I've always believed they were heading that way anyway. Yoko simply expedited the process.

But let's be fair. The Beatles, especially John and Paul, were very strong-willed individuals; very savvy and very much their own men.

I don't think anyone could genuinely make either one of them do something they passionately didn't feel like doing.

So, for me, she just pushed John a little quicker down a path he was already heading.