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Old 23-06-2009, 04:32 PM
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Picture this.
My mates and astro friends Greg Bock and Pat Pearl from Queensland are having dinner and a late night with Stuart Parker in Christchurch New Zealand last Friday evening, having met for the first time through a common interest in Astronomy, specifically supernova hunting. I first got to know Stu through an email he sent to the International Supernova Search Yahoo site, he was looking for like minded astronomers "down south".

During that night some 60km away Stuarts observatory (C14, Paramount, ST8) is automatically working hard taking images of some 300 galaxies for possible supernova. Day or so later Stuart checks his images and in NGC134, a beautiful edge on galaxy in Sculptor, an object catches his eye (against reference images). "Don't know what it is, but it ain't local" (from "Contact").

Stuart has been searching for his first supernova for many years, staying persistent, for a holy grail that when the first is found it is kind of like a religous experience.
Problem is by now Stuart is a long, long way from home on holidays when he checks his images.

Stuart contacts myself for follow up and a plan is put in place. Unfortunately it is pouring rain all day and night so I am out for a confirmation image. Stuart enlists a friends observatory ontop of a cold mountain, some 40 minutes away from the nearest internet connection to try get a confirmation image. It's going to be a long night, here and in NZ.

In the meantime things are happening in Oz. Colin Drescher spends a lot of time getting the photometry and astrometry, limiting magnitudes of DSS images etc. While Greg Bock provides a reference from his earlier searches.

Me? I'm just chillin' out making calls sitting in front of pc and sending emails to keep everyone in the loop - three (or was it 4?) glasses of port also helped.
Having built up a pretty good contact list I am able to get in touch with Steve Quirk to take a confirmation image, and yay his sky is clear. I receive Steve's image at 1.30am this morning and yes, he too has the suspect in his image - at about 16th magnitude and at the precise position Colin measured (these guys are good). Things are looking fan tas tic! By the way you can't confirm a supernova on the basis of one image, several images hours apart is mandatory.

By now we have all the necessary information in place to send to Dan Green at CBAT (International Astronomical Union). The discovery details - an accurate position and magnitude, reference image from the Digitised Sky Survey (DSS2 R) with relevant limiting magnitudes, confirmation image from Steve Quirk (Mr reliable at anytime of the night). The galaxy has been checked for known minor planets and known variable stars. So off goes the report of a possible supernova discovery - Stuarts first.

Well we have just got the CBET (IAU announcement) that it is listed as SN2009gj on CBET1856. So my hearty congratulations to Stuart Parker of New Zealand on his first of what I bet are many discoveries. And a big pat on the back to those who stayed up until the wee hours this morning to send off the report and get things right.

We now await spectra being taken to determine its type.
By the way, my recent discovery 2009gd in NGC5967 has been "typed" as a Type 1c event - a huge stellar explosion (maybe 10 - 100 times the mass of the Sun) probably a Hypernova.

I love this hobby - the wonderful people whose words you read, whose amazing pics you see and whose voices you hear on the phone but may never meet. To those just starting out in Astronomy on this site, buckle up you are in for one heck of an experience, if you stick at it!

Stuarts discovery image is attached and more details can be found at
http://www.rochesterastronomy.org/snimages/
Astro imagers if you are up at around 2am the superb galaxy NGC134 should be pretty well placed for a nice image with a "guest star" awaiting your imaging talents.
PeterM.
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Old 23-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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What a charming story.

I think one of the things i love about this hobby is, it doesnt matter about your religion, ethnic background, or class ...

because when you look at it, i dont know one amateur astronomer who doesnt take joy in just thinking how insignificant we all are in the grand scheme of things.


thanks for posting

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Old 23-06-2009, 04:42 PM
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Well done takes a lot of dedication at least they could have call it SN2009-Parker
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Old 23-06-2009, 04:57 PM
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Really well done to all of you. Great that Stuart finally has his first supernova. By all accounts he should get another in 2 weeks
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Old 23-06-2009, 05:13 PM
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Utterly fantastic.

Peter, the more I read your posts on these subjects, I can't help but be infused by your passion. If only I had a permanent setup, I would also join in the hunt. It must be so exhilirating.

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Old 23-06-2009, 06:08 PM
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Hi Peter & All,

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I love this hobby - the wonderful people whose words you read, whose amazing pics you see and whose voices you hear on the phone but may never meet. To those just starting out in Astronomy on this site, buckle up you are in for one heck of an experience, if you stick at it!
Couldn't have put it better!

Congrats to Stuart & the others involved -- a great yarn! As Humayun said, it must be so exhilarating to make a discovery like that.


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Old 23-06-2009, 06:13 PM
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Thanks Peter. A great story!
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Old 23-06-2009, 07:29 PM
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Great work guys.
Hopefully once I finish my observatory Peter I can start helping you guys with any confirmation images that you may require in the small hours of the morning.

Regards Matt.
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Old 23-06-2009, 08:00 PM
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fantastic story Peter, and the encouragement it gives is great for budding and long term astronomers
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Old 23-06-2009, 08:44 PM
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great stuff Peter ..the dedication and time you guys plough into this is truely amazeing
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Old 23-06-2009, 11:35 PM
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Top stuff Peter, stories like this only make me re-double my own efforts.

I always love the air of expectation you get when going through the previous nights images.

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Old 24-06-2009, 02:33 AM
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Great story alright. Thanks for posting!
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Old 24-06-2009, 02:35 AM
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Hello all,
My Name is Stuart and I discovered Supernova SN2009gj in NGC134
I would like to respond to the above post by Peter.
I would like to thank Peter,Colin,Greg and everybody else that helped in this discovery it was certainly a team effort and if wasn’t for their quick work the discovery would of been made by someone else.
I have been really interested in Supernova hunting for 15 years but had never had the time or equipment to start a proper search so this is like a dream come true
Peter has really helped me set up a serious SN search plan over the past couple of years and his friendly advice has really helped me out . He has always been there with advice and certainly I had a couple of false alarms as well and woke him up on many occasions forgetting the time difference between New Zealand and Aussie thinking that I had seen something to find out that it was nothing. Ending up waking the whole house...Sorry for that
I really look forward to working with Peter and the others in the future.
I am currently imaging NGC134 with a longer exposure and will post my results but need to go to bed now as I have been up for 30 hours!!!!
Thanks
Stu
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Old 24-06-2009, 04:17 AM
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First colour image of SN2009gj

Hello,
I managed to get a colour image tonight no very good but a start.I will redo later

Stu
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Old 24-06-2009, 06:06 AM
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Congratulations Stu, and to IceInSpace!

Great story and I look forward to reading more good news about you guys in the near future.
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Old 24-06-2009, 11:22 AM
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Hi - I would just like to pass on my thanks to Peter M and his mates who helped Stu with his supernova discovery - I was on the other end - in the small observatory (3.6m x 2.4m) locked up with the super charged supernova hunter, waiting for the galaxy to rise and praying that the weather would hold so that we could get a confirmation image. To have an ambition in life is noble but to achieve it is thrilling and Peter M and his mates made it all possible. To be there and see it unfolding is an experience I will always remember. Who thought astronomy could be that exciting.

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Old 24-06-2009, 12:59 PM
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Well done Stuart.

A great collaborative effort.
Maybe one day I'll try to emulate it.
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Old 24-06-2009, 03:29 PM
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Congratulations Stu and a great looking image as well.

I'll bet that woke up the neighbourhood when it went off.

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Old 24-06-2009, 05:26 PM
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Congratulations Stu welcome to iceinspace and I hope you and Peter and all the rest of the crew find some more
I hope to join the club one day
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:39 AM
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Hello all,
My Name is Stuart and I discovered Supernova SN2009gj in NGC134
I would like to respond to the above post by Peter.
I would like to thank Peter,Colin,Greg and everybody else that helped in this discovery it was certainly a team effort and if wasn’t for their quick work the discovery would of been made by someone else.
I have been really interested in Supernova hunting for 15 years but had never had the time or equipment to start a proper search so this is like a dream come true
Peter has really helped me set up a serious SN search plan over the past couple of years and his friendly advice has really helped me out . He has always been there with advice and certainly I had a couple of false alarms as well and woke him up on many occasions forgetting the time difference between New Zealand and Aussie thinking that I had seen something to find out that it was nothing. Ending up waking the whole house...Sorry for that
I really look forward to working with Peter and the others in the future.
I am currently imaging NGC134 with a longer exposure and will post my results but need to go to bed now as I have been up for 30 hours!!!!
Thanks
Stu
Stu had an interview on the "ABC New Radio" at 09;30 this morning
Great to see him getting some recognition for his efforts
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