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19-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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Your thoughts about Planet X
I have finally ordered a few books from Amazon about the Planet X etc etc....
Does anyone have any theories etc about this new finding (albeit a few years after its discovery)........
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19-06-2009, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marclau
I have finally ordered a few books from Amazon about the Planet X etc etc....
Does anyone have any theories etc about this new finding (albeit a few years after its discovery)........
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?discovery
I thought Nancy Lieder had disappeared.
Some old info is here
http://xfacts.com/zeta2003/index.html
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19-06-2009, 09:24 PM
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Thanks Terry,
Yes, I have heard about her and she seems like a real fruitloop.........
Thankfully, the 2 books I have concern the Mayan calendars and reference to a new found planet they discovered 600 years.......etc etc.....
Thankfully nothing related to this Zeta stuff........
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20-06-2009, 09:50 AM
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20-06-2009, 10:17 AM
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Thanks for that.........good read...........in fact, the 2 books are both about the ancient Sumerians and their gods and beliefs.......which in turn mentions their home planet...........I can remember reading this sort of stuff in the 70's as a teenager......as my father was enjoying his astronomy at the time and subject popped up especially early 80's.
I actuslly purchased these books as my serious hobby over the past 25 years has been 'ancient history, civilizations and religions'...........
I find we are somewhat restricted in the books we can get here hence source them from overseas including places like Amazon etc..
I think last count I had topped the 850 book mark..............(dont tell the wife)...
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20-06-2009, 04:43 PM
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Still waiting for the ephemeris for this one..
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20-06-2009, 06:34 PM
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Oh Lord....not this old chestnut!!
It makes me sooo angry.
Everyone knows planet X was found by one M. Martian, D. Duck and P. Pig
in 1953.....and they made a mess of it too
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20-06-2009, 09:34 PM
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hahahahaha Peter, will you stop following me??!!! hahahahaha
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20-06-2009, 09:51 PM
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This thread is so old and has allways ended up being locked.
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21-06-2009, 05:44 AM
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Marclau,
I appreciate and applaud your enthusiasm to research the subject, to form your own opinion, and to hopefully draw your own conclusion to this so-called 'Planet X'. I hope you will come to a very sensible conclusion. Based on your signature, I trust you will do this.
I've never commented on this theory anywhere on any forum before, and I have only had a medium knowledge of the subject, from what I have read and heard enough information to form the opinion, and it is this:
Any information which would come to light of the existence of a newly discovered planet, or planetoid or any type of object orbiting the Sun, would be of great scientific interest to the professional and amateur communities.
However, when a 'discovery' such as this has: (a) been perpetuated though the internet, (b) continually refuted by the scientific community, and finally (c) constantly associated by conspiracy theorists that is a ''government cover up" to keep the population calm, I immediately give it no credible cause whatsoever.
More broadly, my third point is the icing on the cake as far as I am concerned. I, personally do not believe in high-level government "cover-ups", the "Area 51's", "Apollo was a hoax", "this August, Mars will be as big as the Moon", "9-11 was a US-government-operation to rid the world of Jews/black people/Asians/white Caucasian males/midgets" and so forth, most of which are held by some delusional and paranoid U.S citizens (present company in IIS excepted). If a theory or topic has government conspiracy attached to it, it has lost all credibility for me.
Whilst I appreciate that civilisations such as the Mayans were a very clever and resourceful race, and like many ancient civilisations we should give them more credit that what we do for their knowledge of the night sky, we also can very easily misinterpret their writings, and sometimes form our own beliefs based on a series of (mis)interpretations.
I recall back to several TV programs in the 1970's and again in the 1980's which claimed that the world would end on specific dates based on the interpretations of prophesies of Nostradamus (hosted by John Waters, from memory). All those dates have come and gone and I am still here typing this post.
Marclau, you state this is a "new finding" but it has been circling the internet for years. I so not consider this a "new scientific finding" and I will be very blunt here. I think after you read your several books purchased from Amazon, you'll finally realise you've just wasted your money which could have been put to better use.
And yes Kev, I agree!
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21-06-2009, 05:48 AM
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Panet X??
Marcleu, please re-edit the first thread, and fix the title. i.e. Planet NOT Panet !!
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21-06-2009, 08:21 AM
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http://www.planet-x.150m.com/where.html
pretty much sums it up for me.. the notion an unkown planet is going to show up on our doorstep in 2003 is absurd .. hang on it didn't show up did it .. whats the new date .. ok ..2012.. Its worth noteing that even the half whackos think Nancy Lieder ..
(where most of this stuff comes from)is crazy.
The whole exersise is about selling us books on the subject
...all works of fiction .. seems to be working alright to
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21-06-2009, 08:56 AM
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All I can say for sure is, if the world does end on December 21st 2012, my Birthday that year is going to be a REAL blast!
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21-06-2009, 09:01 AM
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21-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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21-06-2009, 09:45 AM
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all I know about planet X is that if we don't want to run out of the Shaving cream atom, we must go to planet X.
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21-06-2009, 10:22 AM
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Thanks everyone........
Actually my inerest is not so mch Planet X as such, only cause I book I just finished about the ancient Sumerians and their civilizations, their was a mention about Sitchen and Planet X etc etc..........I simply thought it might be of interest to look at this different road.
As for Nostradamus, no interest as this is simply based on ways of interpridations........
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21-06-2009, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchilada
Marcleu, please re-edit the first thread, and fix the title. i.e. Planet NOT Panet !!
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Only if you can spell my forum name correctly !! Marclau
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21-06-2009, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by glenluceskies
Marclau,
I appreciate and applaud your enthusiasm to research the subject, to form your own opinion, and to hopefully draw your own conclusion to this so-called 'Planet X'. I hope you will come to a very sensible conclusion. Based on your signature, I trust you will do this.
I've never commented on this theory anywhere on any forum before, and I have only had a medium knowledge of the subject, from what I have read and heard enough information to form the opinion, and it is this:
Any information which would come to light of the existence of a newly discovered planet, or planetoid or any type of object orbiting the Sun, would be of great scientific interest to the professional and amateur communities.
However, when a 'discovery' such as this has: (a) been perpetuated though the internet, (b) continually refuted by the scientific community, and finally (c) constantly associated by conspiracy theorists that is a ''government cover up" to keep the population calm, I immediately give it no credible cause whatsoever.
More broadly, my third point is the icing on the cake as far as I am concerned. I, personally do not believe in high-level government "cover-ups", the "Area 51's", "Apollo was a hoax", "this August, Mars will be as big as the Moon", "9-11 was a US-government-operation to rid the world of Jews/black people/Asians/white Caucasian males/midgets" and so forth, most of which are held by some delusional and paranoid U.S citizens (present company in IIS excepted). If a theory or topic has government conspiracy attached to it, it has lost all credibility for me.
Whilst I appreciate that civilisations such as the Mayans were a very clever and resourceful race, and like many ancient civilisations we should give them more credit that what we do for their knowledge of the night sky, we also can very easily misinterpret their writings, and sometimes form our own beliefs based on a series of (mis)interpretations.
I recall back to several TV programs in the 1970's and again in the 1980's which claimed that the world would end on specific dates based on the interpretations of prophesies of Nostradamus (hosted by John Waters, from memory). All those dates have come and gone and I am still here typing this post.
Marclau, you state this is a "new finding" but it has been circling the internet for years. I so not consider this a "new scientific finding" and I will be very blunt here. I think after you read your several books purchased from Amazon, you'll finally realise you've just wasted your money which could have been put to better use.
And yes Kev, I agree!
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Stephen, and whilst i understand this topic is really out of scope for this forum, this touches a nerve with me as I have had personal experience on some of these topics.
A very close and personal friend of mine named David Summers use to run a magazine called Exposure. Originally it was a magazine designed to show alternatives to current held beliefs on medicine etc...........pretty soon it ended up with UFO's, aliens etc etc...........
The shear volume of times he was arrested, harrassed and rec'd death threats was incredible........so much so that his work, his home etc was raided etc..........surely he touched a nerve with some powerful people because of his magazine??? Now he has sold up everything including his family home........sure, you may not believe, but you sound like a knowledgable man who should also have an open mind..
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21-06-2009, 11:57 AM
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If you understand that this topic is out of scope for this forum, then, why are you posting about it?
Your friend was arrested, harrassed, etc., because his works of fiction annoyed people who probably couldn't handle the fact that he was gaining credibiilty amongst the more gullible out there.
Finally, this topic has absolutely /nothing/ to do with having an open mind. It is about facts.
Planet X has as much credibility as the spam I receive on a daily basis pertaining to Acai berries, Nigerian 419 scams, and Commonwealth Bank emails telling me that my account is insecure and to provide my NetBank details so that they can restore my service.
Mods, please lock this thread -- it's survived a lot longer than the other threads on this most lame and heinous of topics.
Regards,
Humayun
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