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Old 01-04-2009, 12:00 AM
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Messier Marathon - Snake Valley style

I set off to undertake my first Messier Marathon at the Snake Valley Star Camp. Saturday 28th March was a perfect evening for observing from dusk to dawn!

However I had no plans to do this the hard way . I went for pushto on my 12" dob, driven by the Argo Narvis pointing computer.

It was actually a challenge for the following reason. With my wobbly scope, I would normally regularly realign as I progressed through an evening. If I find the objects are starting to fall off centre, I just flick the Argo over to MODE ALIGN, centre the object and align on it, which pulls the Argo back on track. However, the way I was doing this marathon was by working my way through a USER CATALOG I had established in the Argo with all Messier objects in ascending RA order. The problem with this is that if I dropped out of this mode to do an alignment, I could not return to where I was, but had to start again. I discovered this when I was a dozen objects in! So I couldn't touch the alignment all night after that. But it did well. Generally I was working with the 35mm Panoptic so the field of view was fairly large. As dawn broke, I was about 0.3 deg off in one of the axes, alt or azi, I cannot remember, but the object was normally within the eyepiece or close outside the FOV and I knew which way to look.

Before I started, I had already dropped eleven objects off the catalog that were north of +50 deg, knowing they would not make it above the Snake Valley northern horizon. (M52, M103, M76, M81, M82, M97, M108, M109, M40, M101 & M102) So I was shooting for 99. It started disappointingly with the first object, M77 being invisible in the twilight. This was followed by a further six which were also below the horizon - I hadn't thought through my spherical maths! They were M74, M33, M31, M32, M110 & M34. Then next was M45 - I pulled a sprinkle of stars out of the twilight sky - got it, and I was away. As the night progressed, I found one more below the horizon - M39. I struggled in the dawn light for the remaining few which were just clearing the treeline. Thank goodness they were globular clusters, one planetary nebula and the only asterism in the Messier catalog - so I could just pull them out of the brightening sky. Added up the pages - 91 confirmed observations. Detailed notes completely missing - just a "yes" on the log! So don't ask me what I saw of all those open clusters and faint fuzzy galaxies.

Of course, this was no relaxing, high magnification study - it was glimpse, confirm (if necessary from pictures, maybe swap eyepiece for higher magnification) and move on. I saw many objects I hadn't seen before, and several were interesting enough for me to list them for return. I had a top list of seven and came back to three of these over the weekend. M46 was particularly interesting. Yes, another boring open cluster on the list, and there it is, but, what's that? - grab the OIII filter and interpose between my eye and the eyepiece - yes it's a planetary nebula! No one mentioned NGC 2438 being there!

As it turned out, there was plenty of time for breaks and actually plenty of time to study objects, if one wanted. If one was a purist and was starhopping from charts, I think it would be a different matter!

How did everyone else go last weekend?
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:08 AM
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Excellent report Eric, and a job well done!

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:24 AM
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Well done Erick. 91 is an impressive number considering that Northern Hemisphere observers consider anything in the 90's a good effort and they have all 110 to chase.
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:02 AM
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Thumbs up Argo Navis will remember catalog position

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the post and congratulations on your Messier Marathon.

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However I had no plans to do this the hard way . I went for pushto on my 12" dob, driven by the Argo Narvis pointing computer.

It was actually a challenge for the following reason. With my wobbly scope, I would normally regularly realign as I progressed through an evening. If I find the objects are starting to fall off centre, I just flick the Argo over to MODE ALIGN, centre the object and align on it, which pulls the Argo back on track. However, the way I was doing this marathon was by working my way through a USER CATALOG I had established in the Argo with all Messier objects in ascending RA order. The problem with this is that if I dropped out of this mode to do an alignment, I could not return to where I was, but had to start again. I discovered this when I was a dozen objects in! So I couldn't touch the alignment all night after that. But it did well.
If you use the feature of MODE CATALOG whereby you spin the DIAL
to view successive objects in a catalog, if you exit that catalog to view
or align on an object from some other arbitrary catalog, when you return to the
original catalog, it will still be at the position you left off. So there is no reason
to start over again.

So for example, if you left the Messier Catalog at say M76 to align on nearby
CAS DELTA, when you go back to MODE CATALOG, simply spin the dial until
it says MESSIER, then do nothing except press ENTER successive times and
you will be back at M76.

Argo Navis remembers the last object you accessed in a particular catalog
so that when you re-enter that catalog by just doing nothing except pressing the
ENTER button, you will return to the last object you accessed in that catalog.

if you re-enter a catalog and spin the DIAL, you will by that act be changing
the default last object you dialed up. So just press the ENTER button.
This feature is also why a "backspace key" is not needed. If you ever make
an entry error, if you press EXIT it will jump all the way out of the menu
but all you need then do is press ENTER and nothing else successive times
until you are back to the field you need to correct. It is designed for use
with one thumb.

Once again, congratulations for your Messier Marathon!

Best Regards

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Old 01-04-2009, 11:30 AM
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Great tips, thanks Gary - I'm learning all the time. I keep pressing the Exit button when I should be doing something else. There are four options - press Enter, press Exit, turn Dial clockwise, turn Dial anticlockwise (I guess five if you include the on/off switch ), and I still find myself doing the wrong one. Early onset old age senility I guess. I'll get there.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:03 AM
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Congratulations Eric. Thanks for the report.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:27 AM
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91 objects - what an effort considering alot of them are below the the horizon or poorly viewed from this far south.

Good stuff Erick!
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:59 AM
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good work eric, i got 36 using the 15x70 binos and charts - though i must confess was tired so took a 4.5 hrs sleep from 11-4am, meant i missed 5 or so that maybe i could have got on the north horizon
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