I feel sick

matt · #1 10-12-2008, 07:52 PM

Anyone see that truly disturbing report on TV tonight about dolphin culling in Jaiji in Japan?

Here's a report in the West Australian.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.as...ntentID=112309

This really doesn't do justice to the horror of what they're doing, or how truly disturbing the footage was.

I'm not a 'feral' greenie or rabid tree-hugger by any measure, and I've seen some rank things in my time....but fair dinkum, this was crook

And they don't even try and pass this off as 'scientific' research, as they do with the shameful whale hunting.

Just appalling.

I know there'll most likely be some attempt in this thread to justify it on 'cultural' grounds, but do yourself a favour and have a look at the footage before you post, if you can.

mick pinner · #2 10-12-2008, 08:00 PM

l completely agree Matt, and this is why my opinion of the human race when it comes to animal abuse is very very low. countries around the world should condemn this for the butchery it is and impose harsh sanctions on Japan until such actions cease completely.

leon · #3 10-12-2008, 08:13 PM

Well I could respond to your post Matt, and trust me, I do agree, but I'm sure I would be banned from this site for life.

It is bloody disgusting.

Leon

xelasnave · #4 10-12-2008, 08:18 PM

Think good thoughts even when presented with horror.
alex

matt · #5 10-12-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Think good thoughts even when presented with horror.
alex

I did Alex.........for the dolphins.

Though it was sometimes hard to think over the blood-curdling sound of their screams.

Your really have to see and hear this footage.

jungle11 (Greg) · #6 10-12-2008, 09:20 PM

Its horrible, call me a wuss but it brings tears to the eye.

Perhaps we cannot immediately do something about it but I hope we stick up for ourselves if they are in our waters again this season hunting whales. The ban that was implemented 20 odd years ago is useless. Norway kills as many whales per annum as Japan - and they don't hide the reason at all.

Octane (Humayun) · #7 10-12-2008, 09:35 PM

Matt,

Is this the video where the calves are separated from their mothers because of the confusion caused by the fishermen banging steel rods on the side of their boats and onto whatever is on the ground under the water? Afterwards, they are slaughtered and there's school kids walking past the whole spectacle. If so, I saw the video on gumbert, and, it made me feel terrible, too.

The dolphins don't die immediately; the manner in which they're slaughtered ensures they are alive for several minutes throughout the ordeal.

The meat was then being sold marketed as whale meat.

Appalling, no matter which way we look at it.

Regards,
Humayun

mcross · #8 10-12-2008, 09:40 PM

Yeah - I've followed this over the last few years...

It is very sad. I have been blessed to have wild dolphins swim with me in the ocean. They are amazing creatures when you learn about them...

Mark

matt · #9 10-12-2008, 09:45 PM

Hi Humayan.

It's possibly the same video. I'm waiting for Channel 7 to upload it to their website.

Your description sounds similar. The dolphins are 'herded' into a shallow cove where fishermen (if you can call them that) work with nets and spears and repeatedly stab them until they are seriously wounded or dead.

They are then taken into a smaller enclosure (hidden under green tarpaulin-type covers, funnily enough) where the slaughter occurs.

The sight of them herded that way to meet such brutal and hideous deaths just left me speechless...and I have to say for a moment I felt true enmity.

I also felt a keen sense of shame.

Ian Robinson · #10 10-12-2008, 09:47 PM

Bet the meat will wind up in the fish markets and in Japanese restraunts after the "cull".

Well - at least this time they are doing this in their own waters not in someone elses (as "scientific" harvesting).

Ric · #11 10-12-2008, 10:11 PM

I find this very disturbing and sad that this type of thing still continues along with the killing of whales, baby seals and other acts of cruelty perpetrated by so called civilised people on defenceless animals.

One day we'll learn to live with nature and not destroy it.

Like Leon I'll leave it at that before I type something I'll regret.

Jen · #12 10-12-2008, 11:28 PM

that is so sad i really love dolphins

GrahamL · #13 11-12-2008, 06:32 AM

Nothing scientific about this ,they don't even can the meat like with the whales,,the worldwide scrutiny this is rightly getting over recent years is a good thing.

Liz · #14 11-12-2008, 08:23 AM

I also saw it on the telly last night, and was horrified at what they were doing .... in this supposedly 'advanced' day and age. Very sad

AstralTraveller (David) · #15 11-12-2008, 09:57 AM

Matt,

Thanks for raising the issue, people need to be aware that such things are happening. But I couldn't look at such footage. The description on this thread has been quite enough for me - I'm sobbing as I type. I'll have to look at APOD or something cheerful to compose myself.

JimmyH155 · #16 11-12-2008, 04:50 PM

AstralTraveller, I'm like you, I can't bring myself to look. The descriptions on the thread are enough. If you want a vote, then count me in. A few weeks ago on the surf side of Bribie Island, we were treated to a wonderful spectacle of about a dozen dolphins all working as a team, catching their food. They were no more than 10 metres from the shore and on a few occasions, came so close you could see their faces. Everyone on the beach was enthralled. and fell in love with them.
How many of those disgusting killers come on holiday to Oz and go to SeaWorld to show their kids what dolphins are.
How can our human race be so abominable?

Kevnool (Kev) · #17 13-12-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon

Well I could respond to your post Matt, and trust me, I do agree, but I'm sure I would be banned from this site for life.

It is bloody disgusting.

Leon

I,m with you on this one Leon, I saw the episode on that night and the mayor of Broome sticking up for his beloved sister city wont do a darn thing about it,believing its a culture thing. If anyone wants to do anything about it send a email to the mayor of broome and see if he replies. Kev.

xelasnave · #18 13-12-2008, 12:18 PM

So if a culture "eats" their young we must accept it... never.
alex

xelasnave · #19 13-12-2008, 12:20 PM

Mind you as we point the finger we could look to the cruelty in our agriculture that sees battery hens and pigs treated so badly.
alex

matt · #20 13-12-2008, 12:24 PM

A fair point Alex...but then we have to ask ourselves do two (or more) wrongs make a right?

No that I want to base any of this on a sentient 'hierarchy'...but it somehow feels worse when one sees this sort of behaviour meted out to such highly intelligent creatures.