thanks everyone,
the UHC-S filter sure helps bring out detail in nebulae but at the cost of throwing out the clour balance and losing all colour in stars.
i tried taking a few subs when the moon was up with the UHC-S in the hope that the red channel might be something like a poor mans Ha filter but it didnt really work as well as id hoped. atleast its much easier for me to set everything up now since replacing the tripod with a portable pier so i cant wait till the moon buggers off again, it used to take me forever to set up