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Old 19-08-2005, 09:40 PM
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Lagoon Stacked

Sorry for all the images..I am just after your thoughts.

I dont know how to stack images yet so I took 10 x 30 second images of the Lagoon again tonight and stacked them in registax.

What do you think.
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Old 19-08-2005, 09:43 PM
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nothing wrong with that!!!! you are wrong about stacking, you have done it very well, if the final image is any indication

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Old 19-08-2005, 09:47 PM
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Tony. Give yourself credit where credit is due mate. First DSO stacking attempt without any photoshop adjustment.....Damn fine job.

Get yourself a cable or remote release Tony, you will be over the moon if that's the type of exposure you get with 30 sec. Stacking it really doesn't make it much brighter (without image enhancement in PS or such), it just increases the signal to noise ration. For brighter images before adjustment you need longer exposure time. And for that you need to use the bulb exposure.
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Old 19-08-2005, 10:14 PM
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I like that, it 1000% better than my first attempt. nice detail within the image as well Tony. Well done.

is that an artifact up towards the top (left of centre) where it looks like a red pixcel?
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Old 19-08-2005, 10:23 PM
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It might be h0ughy, but I don't think it is. If you check out Tony's shot here http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/a...achmentid=3764 there is no similar spot. It may be different in the 20Da but with my 300 the hot pixels are pretty predictable where they will appear and over what time more will appear. If he's sticking to 30 sec exposures then its unlikely its a hot pixel as there isn't one in his single 30 sec shot at the above link. That's assuming of course that his image scale is the same between the two and he hasn't cropped some of the surroungs.
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Old 19-08-2005, 10:44 PM
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NO I had a look at the full size version and there was NO red hot pixel's in the other images....but dont ask me what it is other wise I ll reply its a red star...lol..
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You have done it gain Paul! listen who shot kennedy?
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Old 19-08-2005, 10:48 PM
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Nice shot once again Tony. Have you turned on long exposure noise reduction ???

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NO I had a look at the full size version and there was NO red hot pixel's in the other images....but dont ask me what it is other wise I ll reply its a red star...lol..

Sounds good to me. Are you happy with your purchase Tony?
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Old 19-08-2005, 10:56 PM
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Stoked houghy....honestly I can not visualy see much in my light poluted city house....to put it this way...if it wasn't for CCD and DSLR's I dont think this hobby would be for me....

Phil...NO...I was going to turn it on once I start doing longer exposures.
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Old 19-08-2005, 11:37 PM
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Excellent inner detail there, the Hourglass nebula is very prominent
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Nice looking lagoon. I so jealous of your weather. Grrrrrrrr

I think there is an even better image lurking in the RAW data. The contrast is pretty high (as evident by the very black background) and stretching your JPG in Photoshop shows more detail in the faint areas. I reckon you can push the stretching using curves on your raw stacked image to bring out even more detail

If what I said is gobbledygook, then email me a copy of the RAW stacked image and I would be happy to have a crack at it for you and then explain the steps.

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Old 20-08-2005, 08:07 AM
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That looks great Tony!
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Old 20-08-2005, 09:04 AM
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Thanks everyone,

Chris I have not used the raw format...everything so far is taken in Jpeg....I can send you the stacked jpep-BMP file buts thats still 24MB....I have compressed into a 6MB rar file.

I have PhotoShop but have never used it so any help is much appreciated.

Anyone is welcome to have a go....download the Lagoon full.rar file from here.

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Old 20-08-2005, 09:11 AM
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am downloading now to test photoshot etc. i have no shots like this one to practise on. do not worry, i will look after it and return it when finished.
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Old 20-08-2005, 09:27 AM
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Challenge accepted. I'll post if I can do anything good with it
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Old 20-08-2005, 09:37 AM
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downloaded winrar to deal with rar file, but it says the lagoon rar is corrupted, will try downloading lagoon again.
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Old 20-08-2005, 09:53 AM
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Hi Tony,
Here's my effort after about 5mins with Photoshop. There is a heck of a lot of detail in that shot of yours!! Well done. I'm no expert with PS, but someone who is could probably squeeze a bit more out of it still.
Ok What did I do...
1. Crop the image a bit to frame it better and remove stacking overlaps
2. Boost the upper end of the curves, to make it look way too over exposed.
3. Using levels reset the black point, using the graphs for each RGB channel individually. This means moving the left slider right until it touches histogram.
4. Tweak the right slider in Levels to get the highlight the detail and balance. The image may still look a bit too over-exposed.
5. Back to curves for a slight tweak. You can get the curve graph looking a bit like a "S" shape at 45°. This boosts the highlights & darkens the background. Image should be looking pretty good now.
6. A little colour balance using colour balance. Boost the midtones a little and boost the shadows a little.
7. I usually finish off with a basic contrast and brightness adjustment and an unshape mask sharpen filter. But this one didn't need it.

Hope this makes sense! There are many other processing techniques but this is the method I use and it mormally does an ok job for most stuff.

Let me know if you want the full BMP of the this processed image, & I'll pop it on the website.

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Old 20-08-2005, 09:57 AM
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Ha, took you 5 minustes for that Robby. Ha, 4.25 min Or did that include writing up you processing explaination.

Robby's right about there being heaps of info in there Tony. If someone (not me) who really new what they were doing with Maxim or iris or even PS or one of the other dedicated progs had a go at a Raw of it for half an hour to an hour or so, the results would be stunning I think. Look out Eddie. Tonys on your tail
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Old 20-08-2005, 10:10 AM
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Nice one Paul, but where's the explanation of how you did it Wasn't that part of the deal?
Do I need to talk to you about controlling the ArgoNavis with your star-mate remote? Would you be keen on that idea?
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