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Old 04-07-2008, 05:59 PM
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Birds in flight – Canon 400mm F5.6 gets the thumbs up!

Hi,

I am very pleased with some of my first light shots of “birds in flight” with our new Canon 400mm F5.6 lens. This lens requires a steady hand and good technique to get the best out of it; it is quite unforgiving of wobbly hands and low shutter speeds – as I have already discovered!

The Cormorant photos were taken with the 70-200 F4.

Hope you like them!

Cheers

Dennis
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:16 PM
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Lovely images Dennis, you've captured some great frozen moments.

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Old 04-07-2008, 07:21 PM
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number 1 is my favorite from the 400mm its a sensational lens for the price isnt it! I have loved mine since I got it...

The pelican landing shot seems a touch over processed... maybe just me.

The first cormorant pic is stunningly sharp... ala, 70-200F/4L...

Top work.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:14 PM
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Stunning shots, Alex!!!

I love the shots of the sea eagle and the kestrel
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:43 PM
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Not my shots... All praise in above post should be directed at Dennis.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:17 PM
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Thanks guys and thanks Alex for the “redirection” of praise, although that should really go to the engineers and opticians at Canon!

Its early days and I’m just getting to grips with some of the field techniques required to improve my keeper rate, as well as exploring the technical wizardry of the 40D.

I’m gradually getting a handle on the need open up 1˝ to 2 stops to compensate for the bright backgrounds, in an attempt to reveal sufficient detail in the underwing areas, but avoid blowing out the highlights. I’m shooting in Manual mode where I mainly set the aperture to wide open and select a shutter speed 1˝ to 2 stops over exposed. I tried spot metering but it was difficult to keep the spot on the bird so the meter was getting fooled by the bright sky.

In terms of auto focus, I think I read that the centre auto focus point on the 40D is more sensitive than the 8 outliers, so I’ve been trying to follow the bird in flight and keep the centre auto focus indicator somewhere on their body – not easy! I may try activating all 9 AF points and observe how they latch on to the bird, to see if that improves my keeper rate.

Next, I must remember to switch to either low speed or high speed continuous shooting mode so I can blast of several frames with one press of the shutter release, as these creatures just swoop by so quickly.

Then that brings us to processing where I have been experimenting with the Shadow/Highlight function in CS3, which helps fill in the dark shadows and tone down the bright highlights. I’ve noticed that this can leave a bright rim around the outline of the bird.

So much to explore, so much to learn, so much of nature’s stunning beauty to be seen. And that’s just in the day time – I must get the ‘scope out again and capture some night time photons soon!

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Dennis

PS – We had the 1st photo down as an immature Sea Eagle and the hovering bird a Nankeen Kestrel?
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:32 PM
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brilliant pics!!
would make a great rolling screen saver or callendar
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:06 PM
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You've certainly got talent Dennis.
You may say it's the lens but it takes that special something to get the "money" shots.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:20 AM
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These shots are brilliant Dennis, absolutely lovely shots indeed.
Even though I've not tried this type of action shot yet, I can imagine how difficult it is to get right.

All the shots look very well processed on my monitor with fine detail and very nice colour renditions.

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I’m gradually getting a handle on the need open up 1˝ to 2 stops to compensate for the bright backgrounds, in an attempt to reveal sufficient detail in the underwing areas, but avoid blowing out the highlights. I’m shooting in Manual mode where I mainly set the aperture to wide open and select a shutter speed 1˝ to 2 stops over exposed. I tried spot metering but it was difficult to keep the spot on the bird so the meter was getting fooled by the bright sky.
I remember reading that (at least in the older models, 12 bit) that 3/4's of the detail is contained in the second half of the histogram and hence the recommendation to always shoot to the right of the histogram to capture maximum detail.

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Next, I must remember to switch to either low speed or high speed continuous shooting mode so I can blast of several frames with one press of the shutter release, as these creatures just swoop by so quickly.
That was going to be my next suggestion, especially on the 40D with it's 6.5 fps burst mode.

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Then that brings us to processing where I have been experimenting with the Shadow/Highlight function in CS3, which helps fill in the dark shadows and tone down the bright highlights. I’ve noticed that this can leave a bright rim around the outline of the bird.
Another superb adjustment available in CS3 ACR is the "Recovery" adjustment, a simply brilliant addition to the ACR 'toolbox' which allows you to recover fine detail on RAW images before going into CS3 'proper'.

Also you can set preferences to allow you to edit jpgs using CS3 ACR too!
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:55 AM
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Thanks Andrew! I’ve just discovered the x3 Custom User settings so I’m going to work out the various optimum settings for bird in flight shots and then allocate them to a custom setting 1, so I can just rotate the Mode Dial to C1 and have the camera ready to go.

Also, I’ve just noticed that my colour space was set to sRGB and I’ve now set it to Adobe RGB as I noted that some of the shadows appear to be clipped in the sRGB colour space.

Sigh, so many settings, so much to digest and so much to put into practice!

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Old 05-07-2008, 11:00 AM
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Also, I’ve just noticed that my colour space was set to sRGB and I’ve now set it to Adobe RGB as I noted that some of the shadows appear to be clipped in the sRGB colour space.
That's the first setting I change on any new camera, setting it on Adobe RGB, even before I put the battery in.
.....Well maybe I put the battery in first......

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Old 05-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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Wow Dennis you really are master of the bird in flight shot! These are national geographic quality

I wondered do you use the Highlight Tone Priority function to give a bit more dynamic range in the highlight area?

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Old 05-07-2008, 02:29 PM
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I wondered do you use the Highlight Tone Priority function to give a bit more dynamic range in the highlight area?
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Thanks Robert. Although I’ve added that function to the 40D My Menu for quick access, I haven’t used it yet.

My thinking so far has been to try to zone in on the tones of the bird and most of the birds in flight I have attempted so far, have had mid to darker tones rather than the lighter tones, so I set the exposure manually; usually F5.6 and then a shutter speed of either 1/1250th, 1/1600th or 1/2000th second.

However, when taking photos of Egrets for example, I reckon that’s where Highlight Tone Priority should come into its own, as the tones are mostly in the highlights.

With the in-flight shots, keeping the shutter speed well up (to avoid blur) I typically have to pump the detail in the shadows and I understand that these can get compressed in the Highlight Tone Priority mode, making them noisy.

Its still early days for me in this exciting branch of nature photography, and it sure helps to have a wonderful wife who adores birds and is a keen bird watcher!

There is a large element of luck involved, on top of the amazing technology that has given us accurate and responsive auto focus, not to mention software tools such as Adobe Photoshop CS3, which all help to get the best out of each shot.

We were lucky enough to spend a few days at Tangalooma recently (got to hand feed the wild dolphins ) and a day down at Wynnum, and our fine feathered friends were gracious enough to fly in front of my lens!

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Old 05-07-2008, 03:22 PM
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ooh, Bful shots Dennis, looove Pelicans, and then the close up of those green eyes is gorgeous.
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PS – We had the 1st photo down as an immature Sea Eagle and the hovering bird a Nankeen Kestrel?
You'd be correct in both assumptions there, Dennis
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when taking photos of Egrets for example, I reckon that’s where Highlight Tone Priority should come into its own, as the tones are mostly in the highlights.
Couldnt agree more. almost every shot I have of Egrets have no feather detail (or very little) due to the histogram clipping... Hard bird to photograph in my opinion... Im still working on it though... Theres a little lake about 500 - 600m walk from my house full of ducks and Egrets.. the occaisional sea eagle flys over also.. So I'm useing that as my "birds in flight" kindergarden...

I'd be stoked to get the detail you're getting out of your images..
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:09 AM
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looks like a nice lens denis
great pics...

what did it set you back? (not that i can use one cause i have nikon, just curious)
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