Ok, i'm going to get flamed or have started a war between CCD's and DSLR's LOL. It seems i always come across websites labeling their CCD products as a "DSLR Killer!" so heres one back
Ofcourse no offense intended to all CCD owners as i can only dream to get myself an SBIG/Starlight/FLI camera! Personally speaking, I still do love and own the meade DSI!
This irritates the crap out of me Eric. You do stuff with a DSLR (and in JPEG, you have to be KIDDING) thats just should be ILLEGAL. Your statement "CCD killer" assumes a given image comparison of an Astrocam and a DSLR image by the same average imager to illustrate what can be done with a given average skill set. In this case, a DSLR pic may well look similar to an Astrocam. You have only presented DSLR pics to demonstrate your skill. A fairer comparison would be YOU presenting a DSLR pic AND a 16meg US$16K cam pic, side by side. Then, you would see the difference. For a start, DSLR JEGS are 8 bit, and Astrocams are 16bit, that alone would, if you applied the skills you have, produce a spine chilling result, I dread the day .
BTW, as Mike says, try RAW (at least 12 bit), I await with intrepidation at the result.
Fantastic image, Eric. So smooth. Incredible result.
next camera next camera thanks mike
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Originally Posted by leon
Great image Eric once again, how is it you can take run of the mill images, while i have been banned, and have to go for the deep stuff.
very nice indeed.
Leon
Cheers Leon. i had my bad times also (most) just that night was soo cold .
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Originally Posted by Matty P
Eric that is a ripper of an image!
The detail so so crisp and the colour is very pleasing to the eye.
Not much more to say than... and
THanks Matty, glad that you like it.
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
This irritates the crap out of me Eric. You do stuff with a DSLR (and in JPEG, you have to be KIDDING) thats just should be ILLEGAL. Your statement "DSLR killer" assumes a given image comparisment of an Astrocam and a DSLR image by the same average imager to illistrate what can be done with a given average skill set. In this case, a DSLR pic may well look similar to an Astrocam. You have only presented DSLR pics to demonstrate your skill. A fairer comparison would be YOU presenting a DSLR pic AND a 16meg US$16K cam pic, side by side. Then, you would see the difference. For a start, DSLR JEGS are 8 bit, and Astrocams are 16bit, that alone would, if you applied the skills you have, produce a spine chilling result, I dread the day .
BTW, as Mike says, try RAW (at least 12 bit), I await with intrepidation at the result.
Thanksss Fred for your compliments. I won't name any names, but have always seen websites labeling their CCD products "KILLS" DSLR . For them to say that is like comparing a datsun to a ferrari. im mere just rubbing it in their face that not all DSLR images gets "KILLED" by CCD's.
We're on the verge of a Wardian argument regarding CCD v's DSLRs here!
Eric, in an attempt to transcend all that nonsense let me say your image is very very smooth. It shows all up and coming imagers just what can be achieved with what is perceived to be budget gear.
CCD killer or not(pretty close though), mate - you're an inspiration!
Well done again
Doug
Beautiful image Eric as always, I don't read all posts on the forum, but yours I always take the time to enjoy. Well done.
THanksss Phil. yes you're normally the quiet achiever amoung all the moderators
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Originally Posted by Ric
That's a beauty Eric, well done.
I'm looking forward to the day when you do purchase and Sbig or similar.
Cheers
Thanks Ric. Arh not on my priority list right now. price should fall after a few years... maybe
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Originally Posted by dugnsuz
We're on the verge of a Wardian argument regarding CCD v's DSLRs here!
Eric, in an attempt to transcend all that nonsense let me say your image is very very smooth. It shows all up and coming imagers just what can be achieved with what is perceived to be budget gear.
CCD killer or not(pretty close though), mate - you're an inspiration!
Well done again
Doug
Thanks for your kind words doug. appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Tamtarn
Another great image Eric. Any camera in your hands seems to produce lethal images.
Thanks guys! looking forward to more of your 40d images
another lovely shot there eric, edge to edge detail. your presentation of images has taken another leap forward lately... whatever you are doing keep it up!
A classic image Eric, well done. I'm with Fred. Its a bold statement to make until the same astrophotographer targets the same region with two different cameras, but all other components in the imaging train remains the same. Peter Ward did this conclusive test not long ago - http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=28834
The output you and various other DSLR users are producing is incredible. The one shot colour camera be it DSLR or CCD certainly allows for high volume work. A few images a week is not a problem and this is a fun form of imaging. I wont be swapping my mono chip with filters for a DSLR any time soon despite the considerably higher workload and challenges it takes to produce an image.
and have to go for the deep stuff. 
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thanks mike 
