ahh, swapped HD's to the one loaded with OS 10.4.10 with safari 2.0.4, not the old OS 10.3.9 I was using, an low and behold works fine - srry false alarm
damn i am slack, I am still having trouble moving HD's, it's like moving home, cant seem to leave the old one behind - does anyone else hate movings HD's, puters, even if it means much better and bigger - i have improvement fatigue after nealry 10 years