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Old 05-12-2007, 01:56 PM
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Three from the 300mm

High Guys.

The night before last i had a bit of a play with the Canon 300mm F/2.8, and as usual i did not concentrate on one subject for the night, but got a bit carried away with the clear sky, and actually did five. widefields

All were taken with the 300mm and 5D, @ 500 ISO, mounted on the G11 and guided with Philips Toucan, each was a stack of 10 images each, at EXP of 1 minute for M42, and 1 minute 20 seconds for the other two, being Eta Carinea, and The LMC.

All images are as taken, and not cropped, and were processed in Image Plus, with a little Digital Development introduced.

Please be critical and comment, either way, I need to learn.

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Old 05-12-2007, 02:23 PM
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Did you do darks and flats?
There's an awful lot of vignetting!

They're very nice and sharp images. However the composition of M42 could've been better placed to fit in the flame + horsehead which are in the bottom left corner.

I envy the clear skies you had!
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:57 PM
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Great stuff Leon! This is exactly the type of photography I'm going to concentrate for a while - using my 300ED Nikkor and the little Tak mount. There's a lot of great stuff to capture without a telescope attached. Now to wait for clear skies again......
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:14 PM
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Yea there is Mike, Hmmmm, I did do darks, but alas, I didn't get to do any flats.

Maybe I should have done some cropping after all, I think I will have to look out for that, but that is what i want to hear, comments so that i can learn.

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Old 05-12-2007, 03:16 PM
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Nice shots Leon, I'm with Mike, vignetting is there, did you try some flats? If not maybe shoot some and try.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:26 PM
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No Gary, I know I should have and was actually going to do it, but then it got dark and i realised i hadn't, do you believe that

Any way I have cropped them a bit, well about half there size, so see what you think, I know that is not the answer, but they may look a bit better.

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Old 05-12-2007, 04:07 PM
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I think you've done a good job here Leon. Now that you're guiding, it makes a difference. Data looks good. I'm sure there is a lot of detail in the full size originals. As the others have said, flats would certainly improve the image quality.
I think you could have framed the Orion shot better (the one in your first post) as you've nearly chopped off the horse and flame in the bottom left corner. You could have quite easily achieve a similar composition to that of Phil's nice post. Overall, good work mate. Get your flats sorted and I feel certain we'll see some killer images coming from you in the future.

EDIT: Sorry to repeat the M42 framing which Mike picked up.

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Old 05-12-2007, 04:44 PM
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Thanks Jase, Your encouragement is much appreciated, I have to admit i get a bit carried away at the scope, and have to train myself to concentrate on no more than one object at a time.

I think this is where I'm coming unstuck, I see the clear sky and get quite excited and go for it, and now tonight, is clear again, what will I do

I then end up with a mixed bag of image data, and so on.

I will not shoot more than one
I will not shoot more than one
I will not shoot more than one

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Nice stuff leon.
The vignetting is more obvious on the thumbnails than the full size images I think, but the crops are very nice - it's that crappy 300mm lens you're using!
Look mate I'll take it off your hands if you like - save you the headaches!!!!!!!!!
Still love that "fizzy" LMC!
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:58 PM
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Doug if i snuff it over night it is yours, thanks for the comments mate, yep, this vignetting is a pain. change back to the Tak tonight, it is brilliant clear skies again

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Old 05-12-2007, 10:49 PM
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The LMC looks great.... I hadn't picked the vignetting until Mike pointed it out..... very nice images Leon.
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:21 AM
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Thanks Lee, I had another go at them last night with the Tak, so when my brain wakes up a bit today, i will get around to processing them.

It will be interesting to see if the Tak dose a better job, and having a quick peek at a raw frame, that may even be the case.

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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The cropped images look very nice Leon. The background maybe a touch red but only a tiny bit? The only thing is get your flat field happening like already mentioned and your images will jump a leap ahead.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:25 PM
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I think they are great, Leon

But what would I know. Anthing better than my Toucam images are great to me

I like the cropped M42, and the original LMC and Carina
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:29 PM
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Just cloned out M42 done gaussian of about 10 pixels saved as flat opened up the M42 >apply image >set blending mode to subract, then adjusted brightness and contrast or levels..No vignetting.
wouldn`t work with to many bright subjects but like the Eta carina!
Hope you don`t mind.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:53 PM
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Gary that is sure an improvement, no mate do what you want with the images, i can use all the help i can get.

Thanks Ken, yea, there not to bad but i am hoping that last nights effort with the Tak instead of the 300mm will be a little better.


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Old 06-12-2007, 04:01 PM
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Ah, the ol' poor man's flat Gary. Haven't seen it used for sometime.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:09 PM
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Ah thats me
poor old man!
I use it ocasionally when I havn`t been bothered with a flat..
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