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Old 26-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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Lightning distance estimation?

How can you estimate how far lightning is away ...flash...one thousand, two thousand, three thousand ..bang... so how many klms?
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Old 26-10-2007, 04:53 PM
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G"Day Alex,

the speed of sound is about 320m/s, so 3 seconds is about 1 km.

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Old 26-10-2007, 04:55 PM
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I was told when very young that each count, one, two, three, etc was a mile, so when we saw the flash we counted and if it reached to eight, or something like that before the rumble, it was 8 miles away

But that is what mum said, so i suppose she knew other than that i don't have a clue

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Old 26-10-2007, 05:04 PM
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G"Day Alex,

the speed of sound is about 320m/s, so 3 seconds is about 1 km.

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Correction: 344m/s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound



It's still about 1 km for every 3 seconds! (or "three thousands")

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Old 26-10-2007, 05:14 PM
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Thanks Leon , thanks Al
So its a lot closer than I thought..

Al have a great trip by the way.
Bon voyagey.

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Old 26-10-2007, 06:34 PM
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its said 3 seconds to a KM but in real life this can be affected by atmospheric conditions ie.. wind, dust, rain etc... Sometimes strikes dont produce a definate beginning and end so it is hard to judge. I have also encountered thunderless lightning, where the sound does not reach the observer at all, due to various reasons I have no idea on
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Old 26-10-2007, 08:12 PM
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its said 3 seconds to a KM but in real life this can be affected by atmospheric conditions ie.. wind, dust, rain etc... Sometimes strikes dont produce a definate beginning and end so it is hard to judge. I have also encountered thunderless lightning, where the sound does not reach the observer at all, due to various reasons I have no idea on
Sometimes that can be due to just prevailing winds and distance (where the wind is passing from you towards the lightning) but most time it is truly "soundless" is due to air temperature or density gradients that curve the sound waves up away from the surface. (The opposite effect to temperature inversions that let you listen to normal conversations across a still lake some kilometres away... Tuggerah Lakes is great for that!)

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Al have a great trip by the way.
Bon voyagey.

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Thanks Alex. I intend to!

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Old 26-10-2007, 09:16 PM
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If the hair melts off your head, you're too close.

Twice I've been within 15m of ground strikes. Fortunately, they missed. One hit the truck beside me in a parking lot, and the other hit the bridge I was driving across at the time. With the bridge strike I had my window down. My ears rang for a while after that.

The bang hits you before your brain has processed the flash.

I've also been on aircraft when they were struck, once over Pakistan and once over the US. I don't care to repeat that.

That is four strikes way too close. Don't stand near me in a storm
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Old 26-10-2007, 09:21 PM
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I was brought up with the same theory that Leon mentioned. Each second was a mile.

Now I teach my kids that each second is a kilometre

So much for correct metric conversion
I have brought the lightning closer
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Gee's Eric, I'll make sure I never travel with you.

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Old 26-10-2007, 09:59 PM
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As I said in the near death thing one got me.. I sure heard the bang before it knocked me out...and I am terrified when it is going on..up home on the mountain strikes seem to happen all along the ridge...freaks me bad.
There was lightning here today I was scared the dogs were also and I was counting to only three between the flash and the crash.
I would love to see one of those maps that record the strikes so I can worry more...

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Old 26-10-2007, 10:07 PM
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Here ya go Alex, a lightning strike map.

just scroll down the page and look for your area.

It seems that Brisbane is getting hammered by lightning at the moment!

http://www.hudsoft.com/nexstorm/
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Old 26-10-2007, 10:10 PM
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Thanks Ken I am going home tomorrow... maybe after a peek at map I may stay here... I hate it.

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Old 26-10-2007, 10:10 PM
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and here is a current map of the whole state!

9,944 strikes in 24 hours!!!
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Old 26-10-2007, 10:19 PM
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You can see a little trail down the mountain range I am on and there is a big strike pretty well at my place..well as good as you can tell . North of the border looks insane.

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Old 26-10-2007, 10:21 PM
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Is there any map showing just the Northern rivers Ken? Tabualm maybe???


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Old 26-10-2007, 10:23 PM
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That sure is a lot of strikes isnt it???
Is that normal?
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Old 26-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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That sure is a lot of strikes isnt it???
Is that normal?
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What's normal with weather?
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Old 26-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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I dont think I will leave the house now.
Thanks you probably saved my life .. its stupid but I get to thinking it is after me.. alone up there I think some crazy thoughts but looking at the map does not make me feel good at all.
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