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Old 08-09-2007, 07:59 PM
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Wood Stain - Can you dilute it to make it lighter in colour

I brought some wood stain today. After giving it a test on some wood I find
it a little to rich in colour. Is there way of toning it down?

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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Add turpentine.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:16 PM
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What type of wood stain did you use Rob?

I use the Feast Watson brand and you can use a reducer with it.
You just keep on adding the reducer until you come up with your desired shade.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:43 PM
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Cabot's interior stain (Australian Jarrah) semi transparent - oil rich

Which I will later spray with a couple of coats of satin Estapol.

The stain is a real rich colour although i could probably get use
to it I would like to tone it down some. It kinda reminds of of
the stuff my old man use to get us to paint the fences with.
Maybe that's why lol

turpentine, i think I remember something about that.

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:06 PM
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If its a spirit base stain then use mehto to thin it
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:23 PM
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Thin it down with turpentine. Add a little at a time and stir it very well. I would be putting some in a separate container and then adding turpentine just to be on the safe side. Don't add too much. One thing about stain is that it gets a little darker as it dries. It also tends to yellow a little with the clear Estapol.

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:50 PM
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Cristian,

Thanks for the pointers, I'll spray the test board tomorrow and see how it
comes out. I'm going to wait until I'm in town again to get some turps an
do some test before i do the job.

Will stain keep with turps in it?

regards,CS
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:41 PM
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Yes, definately turps. Try diluting it with different amounts using some offcuts or scrap from then same timber, thus getting an idea of different ratios of turps-to-stain.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:47 PM
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If this is Feast Watson Prooftint, then use methylated spirit or better still, the Feast Waston reducer.
Prooftint is a spirit based product so do not use turps to thin it.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:38 AM
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Stain will keep with turps but the container must be sealed properly and kept in a cool place. Stain is basically turps anyway except the spirit based ones, which are metho based. We sometimes make liming stain using white oil undercoat and lots of turps.

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Old 09-09-2007, 04:47 PM
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Thanks guy's for your advice and help

Looking at the sample this morning in daylight. It didn't look as rich as
it appeared yesterday. I gave it a couple of coats of Estapol and it's seems
ok. My son liked the colour too and didn't want it lightened, since it will
be his scope when it's done i couldn't argue with him. Actually I really
like the colour. I so went a head with it.

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Old 09-09-2007, 06:18 PM
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Beautiful Rob.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:27 PM
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I gave it a couple of coats of Estapol and it's seems
ok. My son liked the colour too and didn't want it lightened, since it will
be his scope when it's done i couldn't argue with him. Actually I really
like the colour. I so went a head with it.

regards,CS
I won't comment on the colour. You won't like the answer

I like DARK wood.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:24 AM
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Ed,

Thanks, first time I've stained something that isn't a fence paling, lol


Ken,
I was originally thinking of staining it a verp deep green

actually it looks darker in the flesh than it does in the photo, the flash
seems to lighten it up. here's a photo without using the flash but even
then it still looks more red than it really is. Still each to his own

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Old 10-09-2007, 07:32 AM
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It will change a little when the clear is sprayed on.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:43 PM
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It will change a little when the clear is sprayed on.
I'm making the truss connectors and attach them before spraying
the Estapol on it. Ordered the poles today i suppose i should look
at the mirror box

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Old 12-09-2007, 06:10 AM
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ok just for interest sake, can you double stain? I mean apply another coat
or will it just stay the same shade. I have just noticed a couple of marks
I would like to try and stain out.

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Old 12-09-2007, 07:20 AM
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You can double stain. The wood will look darker and the marks that you want to stain out will be a shade lighter. What you can do is stain the marks only with a slightly diluted stain (add turps). The surrounding area may become a little patchy. You have to decide what looks worse the patchy area or the marked area. Always test on a scrap sample of wood. In my experience, if the marks are really noticeable they will look worse than a bit of patchiness. Once you put Estapol on it the marks show up more than the patchiness anyway. Hope this helps

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Old 12-09-2007, 08:38 AM
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Thanks Cristian

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Old 12-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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btw Ed,

Here's how the focuser board turned out. I ended up clamping it for
seven days, i'm pretty happy with it. Also half done making the
wedge clamps.

posting instead of your 24" Nasmyth thread.

regards,CS
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